For those of you that use 4 corner tie downs and not the wheel over baskets, do you cross strap or run them straight out and why?
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Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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Mitch i run 2 from the rearend to the front and straight 2 more from rearend to the rear I then come off of each corner of the car with lighter rachet straps and criss cross them i never pull on the front axle. -
I've taught never, never, NEVER, cross tie from corner to corner, always straight.
With cross tie, if one side becomes loose, the other side becomes completely useless also.
Yes,I know you have always cross tied for the past 75 years without a problem,& God loves you.
For the rest of us, be smart. JB
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Those are my feelings also so i always straight tie.Originally posted by JB-OB View Post
On the front i lasso around the front axle just inside the spindle on both sides. On the rear i go around the axle tubes just inside the backing plates, and tighten all four corners down evenly.
3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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I think you misunderstand I run my heavy straps straight i use light motorcycle tie downs criss crossed at the corners of the car like you do Mitch they are not holding the car only preventing sideways movement. And always allow the suspension to work.Comment
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Ok but i guess i do not see the problem with it As far as straps getting loose that is why you check them after a few miles. Having trucked all my life i have hauled and tied down many things. I am open to any input. I can understand not criss crossing your main hold down straps.Comment
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I understand Mitch and i know what you mean i have seen cars done that way and that is something I do not do, dot has specific regs on tying down freight and equipment but then we see a lot of trailers without functioning break-away or safety chains. I agree with what Jim has to say but I also use the tire baskets you mentioned in your first post i like to have things secured good.
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Yikes!
I used to straight strap. The roads in the northeast are the most horrible on the planet, more like potholes strung together with a few random ribbons of asphalt. Have hauled cars of many marques, not just Model As. I am a nazi about re-tightening the straps periodically. Once on a bad stretch of road the car hopped to the side on the trailer and made it almost impossible to get in the door.
Have cross strapped ever since. If you lose a strap either way, you are screwed. Be sure you choose only high quality straps such as you get from the suppliers to the tow/recover industry. I get mine from AW Direct. Inspect them from time to time for chaffing and splitting. REPLACE when needed
This topic should be part of the whitewalls and oil thread!!!Comment
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I'am thinking the real trick is to keep your tie-downs as short as possible, and as close to where you hook on to your car. Sometimes I've wrapped the main strap around the back of the tire,crossing on the outside and down. Anyone use wheel chocks in addition with straps?Comment
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big hammer think about how the load can move, back and forth side to side up and down that is what you need to control if you pull down on the suspension you will be loose and tight and will not accomplish nothing.Comment
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I understood what he was saying my response was more something to think about with any car did not mean to imply he was doing any thing wrong but I have seen people haul newer cars and chain from the frame and that really is not a good way to do
things such as you said about seeing cars with the straps criss-crossed.
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To clarify my statement, strap around the tire and crossed hub cap side down to the floor. Almost like a tire basket ! I have hauled way too much in my life, if I had a dollar for each item I would be a millionaire LOL, no I would have more than one model A !Comment
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My fingers do not always type what i am thinking..png "smile")
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About a year ago there was a story about a guy in Europe who had just picked up his restored antique Rolls Royce. As I recall, he used a pretty light tow vehicle, lost control, and totaled the tow vehicle, trailer, and the Rolls Royce.Comment
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Wheel base of tow vehicle weight ratings all contribute to safe towing.Comment
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Tom i think i remember that it was being pulled by a Landrover.3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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Thinking ahead at 2:00 am this morning, what is the proper way to winch the car onto a trailer? Where do you hook on and what is needed int the way of straps etc. I understand that we don't just hook the middle of the front axle, but can you hook around the differential and go on backward, etc?05-07-2021, 08:46 AM -
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Our speedster has a '33-'34 front axle giving a 1.5" drop. Everything else is standard. When on full lock or close to full lock, the tie rod rubs on the front cross member and at times feels as though its sticking or dragging there.
Also when we hit an abrupt bump, the tie rod taps the underside of the chassis.
If I bend the steering arms down to stop it tapping the chassis, it will...01-26-2021, 09:08 PM -
Most of us, if not all, would like to have the front end assembly, when attached to the front cross member and measured from equal points, A to B, left and right, be almost equal.
However sometimes they are not equal.
In other words, pick a point on the front end (A) and measure to a "given" point (B) on the frame, left and right. They should be equal or darn near...11-14-2020, 06:53 PM -
Contained in Model A News (J/A 2007) and The Restorer (J/A 2018) were
articles on the restoration or strightening of the front axle.
Has anyone attempted these process and if so, could you please give me your opinion on them and any other advice on the process and which would be the best way to proceed.
Thanks.
Pluck05-01-2019, 09:38 AM -
You need to keep the axle taper clean dry and smooth, and keep the axle nut tight to prevent damage like this.
I wonder if someone was spinning the rear wheel, then hit dry pavement to do this much damage?
This is the second free axle I got with this kind of damage.
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