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  • Important Errors contained in the Les Andrews Books

    We have compiled a list of published errors that are in the Les Andrews texts. If you own or reference any of these books it would be prudent to make the appropriate corrections on the pages listed. For anyone that finds additional errors or the same errors listed here on other pages feel free to post your findings on this thread.

    Our corrections are approx values and remember the Model A was built without using torque wrenches. Most of the things we have listed here can be done by using common sense and feel.

    This is a link to the original thread for this project where the correct procedures were discussed.
    https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...-andrews-books

    You may also refer to our Specifications page link where these corrections are also revised.
    https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...-w-corrections


    Red Book Volume 1 errors & corrections:

    Engine Oil Pan Bolts Torque

    page 1-146 & 1-226
    error:: 20 ft. lbs

    correction:: approx 8 ft. lbs ( read the above threads for more info)

    Manifold to Engine Block Nuts Torque

    page 1-134 table 1-5
    error 45 ft. lbs

    correction:: approx 25 ft. lbs

    Valve Chamber Bolts Torque (valve cover)

    page 1-134 table # 1-5

    error:: 20 ft. lbs

    correction:: approx 8 ft. lbs ( should be treated the same as the oil pan)

    Timing (setting the rotor position)

    page 2-18 #10
    error:: The book states to set the rotor position opposite #1 contact.

    correction:: Let's mention the timing section when the book says the rotor should point opposite the number one contact it means facing it. >1 the Arrow is opposite the number 1 not this way <1. If you time the engine with the rotor opposite number 1 (<1) your timing will be 180 degrees off.
    note The picture does show the rotor in the correct position.


    Brake Rods

    page 1-45
    error:: The book states to adjust all 4 brake rods to 51-7/16" to 51-1/2" in length from eye to eye centers.

    correction:: Service Bulletins page 202 says to adjust the brake rods by setting all the cross shaft and pedal adjustments first. then adjust the rods by removing the slack from each actuating lever until the clevis holes line up.

    Emergency Brake Springs

    page 1-43
    error:: Diagram in the red book shows only one emergency brake band spring

    correction:: There are actually two springs


    Spindle Locking Pin Nut

    page 1-34 #1 AND page 1-35 #9
    error:: The book states the wrench/ socket size is 9/16th

    correction:: The correct wrench size / socket to remove the spindle locking pin nut is 11/16th

    Brake Actuating Arm Nut

    page 1-35 #2
    error:: The book states the wrench/ socket size is 9/16th

    correction:: The correct wrench size / socket to remove the brake actuating arm nut is 11/16th
    VINTAGE FORD FORUM





    Rear Motor Mount Rubber Pads

    page 1-221
    error::Trimming the motor mount rubber.

    correction:: It is no longer needed.


    Rear backing plate nuts

    page 1-40, para 3.
    error: The 4 castle nuts inside the grease baffle requires a 9/16 socket

    correction: It requires a 5/8 socket, not 9/16.




    Capacities

    page 1 Specification's Card
    error:: Transmission 1 1/2 pints
    correction:: Transmission 1 pint (service bulletins pg 375)

    error:: Differential 2 1/4 pints
    correction:: Differential 1 1/2 pints (service bulletins pg 375)

    King Pins

    page 1-209
    error:: The book does not mention about there being a Right and a Left KIng Pin when doing the services

    correction:: Take note that there is a R & L king pin


    Blue Book (trouble shooting & diagnostics) Errors & Corrections:


    Brakes

    page 4-62 2nd paragraph in right-hand column, second sentence
    error:: "In the rear wheel brakes, ....

    correction:: Should be front

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