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    How to Identify the Year
    of a Model A Ford

    by Rick Black, Medford Oregon
    A typical question I hear is: I have a quick question concerning the Model A Ford I've just acquired. It's in primer and in storage. What I would like to know is how to tell exactly what year it is. I think it's a 1931, but if you could give me some information on the changes in the body styles in the 28 - 31 years, I would be very grateful.

    In an attempt to answer this kind of question, I've put together the following "guidelines" based on my 30+ years of researching, collecting, and restoring Model A Fords. These guidelines are general in nature and don't attempt to narrow the date of manufacture to a particular month, but merely to identify the probable year of manufacture. If you're planning to have your car judged in club competition, the Model A Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards are invaluable for helping you restore your car and determining the date with accuracy. For Starters

    There are two distinct Model A groups: 1928-1929 vehicles and 1930-1931 vehicles. Model A engines were made ahead of time and stamped with a number consisting of the letter A, a number up to 7 digits and a star. The Reference Desk Page on the MAFCA web site has a link to an Engine Production Chart showing motor serial numbers, so it's possible to look up the manufacture date of an engine.

    However, it may have taken up to 3 months (or more in some cases) for engines to be used at an assembly plant and put into a chassis. During that assembly, the engine number was stamped onto the frame on the driver's side, just to the rear of the first body bolt hole. In most cases, it's impossible to see this number without taking the body and running board splash aprons off the frame.

    Over time, engines wore out, and it was standard practice in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s to simply swap a tired engine with a different one. As long as the replacement engine was in good condition, the serial number on it was seldom a concern. Thus, it's common to find a 1929 engine in a 1931 car, for example. Trying to determine the year of the car merely by looking up the engine number is not conclusive. Instead, here's what to look for:
    Is it a 1928-29 or a 1930-31?

    The photo above left is a 1928 Tudor Sedan. The photo above right is a 1931 Deluxe Tudor Sedan. Each is typical of two basic year groups of Model A's. It's relatively easy to spot differences in the front bumpers, the size of the hub caps, the shape of the radiator shell and hood, and the gas tank/cowl section.

    The 1928-29 Cars had nickel-plated, magnetic steel headlights and radiator shell. The same items on Commercial units (trucks) were also magnetic steel but were painted black. Bodies had a two-piece firewall with a horizontal seam (three-piece on Fordors and Cabriolets). On the driver's side above the seam, the date of assembly might be found if you wipe the area clean. The radiators were shorter than later the 1930-31 models. 1929 style commercial bodies (trucks) were continued to mid-1930.

    1930-31 Headlights were stainless steel and more rounded in the back. Radiators and shells were taller and made of stainless steel. 1930-31 cars had a seamless firewall. No dates are commonly found stamped on the firewall.

    Wheels on 1928-29 vehicles were 21" with 4.50 tires and used smaller hub caps than the 1930-31 cars, which used 19" wheels and 4.75 tires. Since the wheels would fit on any year, wheel size alone won't determine the year of the car. Quick Identification

    The first thing to look at to identify the year of a Model A Ford is the area of the radiator shell, headlights, bumpers. If the car is original or accurately restored, you can quickly assess the correct year of the car. Remember though that there were many variations, and the Model A Restoration Guidelines and Judging Standards are the final word on what is correct for each year.

    Take a look at the following pictures, from left to right, of 1928, 1929, 1930, and 1931 cars:
    It's easy determine whether the Model A is an "early" or 1928-1929 year model or a "late" 1930-1931 model by looking at the shape of the radiator shell. On the early cars, the shell is shorter and lacks the painted lower section. It's also pretty easy to tell a 1930 from a 1931 - notice that the 1930 shell has a smooth top section, while the 1931 shell has a painted top section. However, the 1928 and 1929 shell and radiator look identical.

    Instead of looking there, look closely at the headlights and center bumper clamp. It's hard to tell in the photographs above, but the 1928 headlights had vertical fluted lenses and round center bumper clamps. 1929 cars (and 1930-1931 cars too) had Twolite lenses and an oval center clamp on the bumper. The 1928-1929 headlights were "acorn" shaped, while the later 1930-1931 lights were "cup" shaped. Sharp eyes will also note that the early headlight bar was straight between the headlights while the later one had a slight upward bow. Compare the headlights in the 1929 and 1931 photographs and see if you can spot the differences.

    Finally, front bumpers on 1928-1929 vehicles had a reverse bend at the ends where the later 1930-1931 cars had gently curved ends. Compare the center two photos - the 1929 and 1930 cars - and you'll see the difference. Once you learn how to put all these things together, you'll be able to identify the year of a Model A quickly with a high degree of accuracy. But don't forget, there are some exceptions to these general guidelines, so you may not want to bet a lot of money on your identification!
    Fine Tuning -- Is it a 1928 or 1929?

    At first glance, 1928-29 cars look identical. You'll have to look closely to tell the difference. The single tail light of the 1928 cars was shaped like a tuna can and is referred to as a "drum" tail light. This design was carried over to the early 1929 models until the more common "tea cup" design was introduced. That design was used until the end of production. The drum tail light bracket was forged steel and was bolted to the bottom of the body on the driver's side. The tea cup bracket was stamped steel and was bolted to the rear fender on the driver's side. If you find a left-rear fender with no mounting holes for a tail light, it's probably a 1928 fender.

    1928 cars originally had red steering wheels. These gave way to black wheels in 1929. 1928 roadsters, pickups, and phaetons lacked outside door handles but 1929 roadsters and phaetons were so equipped.

    Headlight lenses can also help determine the year. 1928 lenses were a carryover from Model T days. The design of the lens was changed for 1929 and continued thorough the end of production.

    Is it a 1930 or 1931?

    This one is tricky, but in general, you can tell a 1930 from a 1931 by looking at the radiator shell. 1930 cars had a stainless shell with a painted insert at the bottom and a blue Ford logo. 1931 cars had a painted upper insert with a stainless steel Ford logo.
    Click Here for a photo comparing the 1930-31 radiator shells

    Another difference between 1930 and 1931 vehicles are the running board splash aprons. The 1930 vehicles used a two-piece splash apron. The main piece was integral with the running board, and the small front section was bolted to this assembly. The 1931 vehicles used a separate, one-piece splash apron that bolted to the running boards. However, the transition period commenced in October 1930 and continued to year end.
    Click Here for a photo comparing the 1930-31 fender/running boards.

    Splitting Hairs --
    Early 1930 versus Late 1930


    From the beginning of production, the instrument panel in the vehicle was diamond shaped with a smooth face, an oval speedometer, and a light protruding from the center.

    Starting around June 1930, a new design was used, shaped more like an oval, with horizontal ribs, and a round speedometer. The dash light was moved above the panel, just under the dash rail.

    Early 1931 versus Late 1931

    In May 1931, the area where the gasoline line came thru the firewall (passenger side) was indented so that the gasoline shut-off switch could be mounted in the engine compartment instead of inside the car. The sediment bowl was redesigned so that it could be mounted to the side of a specially designed Zenith carburetor.

    In the photo below, the red arrows show the location of the fuel shut off valves. The green arrows show the fuel inlet on the carburetors.


    We hope that these tips help you to identify the Model A's that you see. They're really NOT all the same!


    1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
    2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

    Henry Ford said
    "It's all nuts and bolts"


    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

  • #2
    Know your Coupes!


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    1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
    2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

    Henry Ford said
    "It's all nuts and bolts"


    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

    Comment


    • #3
      Briggs and Murray body differences!



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      1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
      2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

      Henry Ford said
      "It's all nuts and bolts"


      Mitch's Auto Service ctr

      Comment


      • #4
        Hopefully it's alright to post in this section? If not please delete.

        I just noticed with the info in the first post that my 1930 car has 1931 type splash aprons.

        Comment


        • Mitch
          Mitch commented
          Editing a comment
          Feel free to add to any tech thread. Does your coupe have the oval speedo? When was it built?

        • jordanka16
          jordanka16 commented
          Editing a comment
          It has the round speedo, I have no idea when the body was built, the engine is a june 1930 but that probably means nothing. All the body pieces are original to the car, so is the radiator shell and it is a 1930 style as well.

          I just read they started using the 31 type splash aprons in Oct. 30, maybe mine is very late 1930? I had no idea, very cool info.

      • #5
        Taken from the MARC website.

        1928/1929 CLOSED


        1928 – 29 CLOSED MODEL AS – FACTORY DATA

        Closed Body Styles
        Name Body type Year
        Std. Coupe 45A 1928-29
        Special Coupe 49A 1928-29
        Spt. Coupe 50A 1928-29
        Business Coupe 54A 1928-29
        Tudor Sedan 55A 1928-29
        Fordor Leather Back-Briggs
        Seal Brown Top
        60A 1928-29
        Fordor Leather Back-Briggs
        Black Top
        60B 1929
        Fordor Steal Back-Briggs 60A 1929
        Taxi-Cab 135A 1928-29
        Town Car 140A 1928-29
        Station Wagon 150A 1928-29
        Town Sedan – Murray 155A 1929
        Town Sedan – Briggs 155B 1929
        Std. Fordor Sedan – Murray 165A 1929
        Std. Fordor Sedan – Briggs 165B 1929
        Std. Fordor Sedan 2/W Briggs 170A 1929
        1928 – 29 Standard Coupe 45A

        stories45A1 28 web 1928 stories45A2 28 web 1928 stories45A1 29 web 1929 stories45A2 29 web 1929
        Domestic Production Numbers
        1927 629
        1928 70,784
        1929 178,982
        Cost:
        1928 $495 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        1929 $500 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        Production Paint Colors 1928 45A
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue Duchess Blue French Gray
        Arabian Sand, Dark Copra Drab French Gray French Gray
        Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Light Dawn Gray, Light Straw
        Niagara Blue, Dark Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue French Gray
        Gunmetal Blue Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Dark French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 45A(Used through April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Chelsea Blue Straw
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Seal Brown Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Rock Moss Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Niagara Blue, Light French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 45A(Used after April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding & Upper Back Reveals Stripe
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Rose Beige Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Vagabond Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Andalusite Blue French Gray
        Mountain Brown Thorne Brown Mountain Brown Straw (1)
        Thorne Brown Black Thorne Brown Gold (1)
        (1) Available October 1929


        1928 – 29 Special Coupe 49A
        stories49A1 web stories49A2 web stories49A3 web
        The Special Coupe 49A was in production from July 1928 to July 1929. The only distinctive feature between the Standard Coupe 45A and the Special Coupe 49A is the artificial leather on the back.
        Domestic Production Numbers
        1928 Not Available
        1929 Not Available


        Cost: 1928 $500 (F.O.B. Detroit) 1929 $510 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        Production Paint Colors 1928 49A
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue Duchess Blue French Gray
        Arabian Sand, Dark Copra Drab French Gray French Gray
        Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Light Dawn Gray, Light Straw
        Niagara Blue, Dark Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue French Gray
        Gunmetal Blue Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Dark French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 49A
        (Used through April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Chelsea Blue Straw
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Seal Brown Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Rock Moss Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Niagara Blue, Light French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 49A
        (Used after April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding & Upper Back Reveals Stripe
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Rose Beige Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Vagabond Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Andalusite Blue French Gray
        Mountain Brown Thorne Brown Mountain Brown Straw (1)
        Thorne Brown Black Thorne Brown Gold (1)
        (1) Available October 1929
        1928 – 29 Sport Coupe 50A
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        1928 Sport Coupe 50A
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        1928 Sport Coupe 50A
        stories50A3 29 web
        1929 Sport Coupe 50A
        Domestic Production Numbers
        1927 734
        1928 79,099
        1929 134,292
        Cost:



        1928 $550 (F.O.B. Detroit) 1929 $530 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        Production Paint Colors 1928 50A
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue Duchess Blue French Gray
        Arabian Sand, Dark Copra Drab French Gray French Gray
        Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Light Dawn Gray, Light Straw
        Niagara Blue, Dark Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue French Gray
        Gunmetal Blue Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Dark French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 50A
        Used through April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Chelsea Blue Straw
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Seal Brown Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Rock Moss Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Niagara Blue, Light French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 50A
        (Used after April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding & Upper Back Reveals Stripe
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Rose Beige Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Vagabond Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Andalusite Blue French Gray
        Mountain Brown Thorne Brown Mountain Brown Straw (1)
        Thorne Brown Black Thorne Brown Gold (1)
        (1) Available October 1929
        .

        1928 – 29 Business Coupe 54A
        stories54A2 28 web stories54A3 28 web stories54A4 28 web
        The Business Coupe 54A is similar to the Sport Coupe 50A except it has a trunk instead of rumble seat and is not equipped with Landau Irons. With introduction of the 1929 model the oval windows were added to the rear quarter. Later Ford did offer the Landau Irons as an accessory.
        stories54A5 29 web
        1929 Business Coupe 54A
        Domestic Production Numbers
        1927 0
        1928 37,343
        1929 37,644
        Cost:
        1928 $495 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        1929 $490 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        Production Paint Colors 1928 54A
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue Duchess Blue French Gray
        Arabian Sand, Dark Copra Drab French Gray French Gray
        Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Light Dawn Gray, Light Straw
        Niagara Blue, Dark Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue French Gray
        Gunmetal Blue Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Dark French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 54A
        (Used through April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Chelsea Blue Straw
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Seal Brown Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Rock Moss Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Niagara Blue, Light French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 54A
        (Used after April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding & Upper Back Reveals Stripe
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Rose Beige Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Vagabond Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Andalusite Blue French Gray
        Mountain Brown Thorne Brown Mountain Brown Straw (1)
        Thorne Brown Black Thorne Brown Gold (1)
        (1) Available October 1929
        1928 – 29 Tudor 55A
        stories55A1
        Early 1928 Tudor 55A
        stories55A4 web
        Early 1928 Tudor 55A
        Notice the open bumper ends, this is a very early 1928
        stories55A2
        Early 1928 Tudor 55A
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        Early 1929 Tudor 55A
        The Tudor Sedan was considered the family car of its day and was the most popular body style of the entire Ford line of that era.
        .
        Domestic Production Numbers
        1927 1,948
        1928 208,562
        1929 523,922
        Cost:
        1928 $495 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        1929 $500 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        Production Paint Colors 1928 55A
        Upper & Lower Body Upper Body Back Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Niagara Blue, Light Niagara Blue, Dark Duchess Blue Duchess Blue French Gray
        Arabian Sand, Dark Copra Drab Copra Drab French Gray French Gray
        Dawn Gray, Dark Gunmetal Blue Dawn Gray, Dark Dawn Gray, Dark Straw
        Niagara Blue, Dark Niagara Blue, Light Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue French Gray
        Gunmetal Blue Black Black French Gray French Gray
        Production Paint Colors 1929 55A
        (Used through April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding & Upper Back Reveals Stripe
        Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Chelsea Blue Straw
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Seal Brown Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Rock Moss Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Niagara Blue, Light French Gray
        .
        Production Paint Colors 1929 55A
        (Used after April 1929)
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding & Upper Back Reveals Stripe
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Rose Beige Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Vagabond Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Black Andalusite Blue French Gray
        Mountain Brown Thorne Brown Mountain Brown Straw (1)
        Thorne Brown Black Thorne Brown Gold (1)
        (1) Available October 1929
        1928 – 29 Fordor 60A, B, and C (Briggs)

        The 1928 model Fordor 60A was introduced with a Seal Brown top and cowl ventilator on the left. Also note the celluloid sun visor which was later replaced by the rigid metal visor.
        stories60A1 web stories60A3 web stories60A2 web
        In 1929 two models were introduced, the 60B with leather back and black top, and 60C with steel back and black fabric top

        stories60C1 web stories60B1 web stories60C2 web
        Domestic Production Numbers
        (60A, B, and C)
        1927 0
        1928 82,349
        1929 146,097
        Cost:
        1928 – 60A – $570 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        1929 – 60B & C – $600 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        Production Paint Colors 1928 60A
        Lower Body Upper Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
        Balsam Green Valley Green Valley Green Pembroke Gray Old Ivory
        Copra Drab Seal Brown Seal Brown Copra Drab French Gray (1)
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Seal Brown Rose Beige Orange (2)
        Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue Arabian Sand, Dark Orange
        (1) Dropped August 1928
        (2) Available September 1928
        Production Paint Colors 1929 60B & C
        Upper & Lower Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding & Upper Back Reveals Stripe
        Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Bonnie Gray Straw (1)
        Rose Beige Seal Brown Rose Beige (4) Orange
        Vagabond Green Rock Moss Green Vagabond Green Straw
        Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue Niagara Blue (2) French Gray
        Thorne Brown Black Black Gold
        Bramble Brown Thorne Brown Bramble Brown Cream (3)
        (1) Dropped May 1929
        (2) Sill Molding Andalusite Blue
        (3) Stripe may be Orange for January 1929
        (4) Sill Molding Seal Brown


        1929 -30 Town Car 140A

        stories29 140A 1 web stories29 140A 2 web stories29 140A 3 web stories29 140A 4 web(2)
        Domestic Production Numbers
        1928 89
        1929 913
        1930 63
        .
        Cost:
        1928 Town Car (Unavailable) (F.O.B. Detroit)
        1929 Town Car $1200 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        1930 Town Car $1200 (F.O.B. Detroit)
        Production Paint Colors 1929 – 30 140A
        Lower Body & Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr & Sill Moulding Stripe
        Brewster Green Black Serpent Green
        Thorne Brown Black Orange (1)
        Black Black Gold
        Mulberry Maroon Black Coach Vermilion (2)
        Madras Carbuncle Black Casino Red (3)
        (1) Gold or Silver Gray stripe also used
        (2) Dropped January 1929
        (3) Available January 1929
        1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
        2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

        Henry Ford said
        "It's all nuts and bolts"


        Mitch's Auto Service ctr

        Comment


        • #6
          Taken from the MARC website!

          1930/1931 CLOSED


          1930 – 1931 CLOSED MODEL AS – FACTORY DATA

          Closed Body Styles
          Name Body type Year
          Std. Coupe 45B 1930-31
          Dlx. Coupe 45B 1930-31
          Spt. Coupe 50B 1930-31
          Tudor Sedan 55B 1930-31
          Station Wagon 150B 1930-31
          Town Sedan – Murray 155C 1930-31
          Town Sedan – Briggs 155D 1930-31
          Std. Fordor Sedan 160A 1931
          Town Sedan 160B 1931
          Dlx. Fordor Sedan 160C 1931
          Std. Fordor Sedan – Murray 165C 1930-31
          Std. Fordor Sedan – Briggs 165D 1930-31
          Std. Fordor Sedan 2/W Briggs 170B 1930
          Dlx. Fordor Sedan 2/W Briggs 170B 1930-31
          Victoria 190A 1930-31
          1930 – 31 Coupe 45B

          stories45B1 web
          1930 Standard Coupe 45B
          stories45B3 web
          1930 Standard Coupe 45B
          stories45B2 web
          1930 Deluxe Coupe 45B
          stories45B6 web
          1930 Deluxe Coupe 45B
          stories45B5 web
          1931 Standard Coupe 45B
          stories45B4 web
          1931 Deluxe Coupe 45B
          Domestic Production Numbers
          Standard Coupe 45B
          1930 226,027
          1931 79,816
          .
          Domestic Production Numbers
          Deluxe Coupe 45B
          1930 28,937
          1931 23,067
          .
          .
          Cost: 1930 Standard Coupe $495 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1930 Deluxe Coupe $545 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          .
          1931 Standard Coupe $490 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1931 Deluxe Coupe $525 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          .
          Production Paint Colors 1930 45B
          Standard Coupe
          Lower Body& Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr
          & Sill Molding
          Stripe
          Andalusite Blue Black French Gray (1)
          Andalusite Blue Black Aurora Red (2)
          Lombard Blue Black Hessian Blue (3)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Copra Drab Chicle Drab Straw (4)
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw
          Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Tacoma Cream
          Black Black Vermilion (5)
          Black Black Apple Green (6)
          (1) Early 1930 only (4) Dropped November 1930
          (2) Dropped August 1930 (5) Dropped September 1930
          (3) Available September 1930 (6) Available September 1930
          .
          Production Paint Colors 1930 45B
          Deluxe Coupe
          Lower Body& Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr
          & Sill Molding
          Stripe
          Andalusite Blue Black French Gray (1)
          Andalusite Blue Black Aurora Red (6)
          Lombard Blue Black Hessian Blue (2)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Copra Drab Chicle Drab Straw (3)
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw
          Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Tacoma Cream
          Black Black Vermilion (4)
          Black Black Apple Green (5)
          Brewster Green Black Apple Green (5)
          Ford Maroon Black Vermilion
          (1) Early 1930 only (4) Dropped September 1930
          (2) Available September 1930 (5) Available October 1930
          (3) Dropped November 1930 (6) Dropped August 1930
          .
          Production Paint Colors 1931 45B
          Standard Coupe
          Lower Body Upper Body, Belt, Qtr, Sill Molding & Reveals Stripe
          Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Straw (1)
          Lombard Blue Black Hessian Blue (1)
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw (1)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Black Black Apple Green
          (1) Tacoma Cream Stripe beginning July 1931
          .
          Production Paint Colors 1931 45B
          Deluxe Coupe
          Lower Body & Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr
          & Sill Molding
          Stripe
          Ford Maroon Black Vermilion
          Brewster Green Black Apple Green
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw (1)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Black Black Apple Green
          (1) Tacoma Cream Stripe beginning July 1931


          1930 – 31 Sport Coupe 50B

          stories30 50B 1 web 1930 stories30 50B 4 web 1930 stories31 50B 2 web 1930
          stories31 50B 3 web 1930 stories31 50B 7 web 1931 stories31 50B 9 web 1931
          Domestic Production Numbers
          Sport Coupe 50B
          1930 69,167
          1931 19,700
          Cost:
          1930 Sport Coupe $525 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1931 Sport Coupe $500 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          .
          Production Paint Colors 1930 50B
          Lower Body & Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr
          & Sill Molding
          Stripe
          Andalusite Blue Black French Gray (1)
          Andalusite Blue Black Aurora Red (2)
          Lombard Blue Black Hessian Blue (3)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Copra Drab Chicle Drab Straw (4)
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw
          Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Tacoma Cream
          Black Black Vermilion (5)
          Black Black Apple Green (6)
          (1) Early 1930 only (4) Dropped November 1930
          (2) Dropped August 1930 (5) Dropped September 1930
          (3) Available September 1930 (6) Available September 1930
          Production Paint Colors 1931 50B
          Lower Body Upper Body, Belt, Qtr, Sill Molding & Reveals Stripe
          Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Straw (1)
          Lombard Blue Black Hessian Blue (1)
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw (1)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Black Black Apple Green
          (1) Tacoma Cream Stripe beginning July 1931


          1930 – 31 Tudor 55B

          stories55B130 web
          1930 Standard Tudor 55B
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          1931 Deluxe Tudor 55B
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          1931 Deluxe Tudor 55B
          stories55B3 31 web
          1931 Deluxe Tudor 55B
          Domestic Production Numbers
          Standard Tudor 55B
          1930 376,271
          1931 148,425
          Domestic Production Numbers
          Deluxe Tudor 55B
          1931 21,984
          Cost:
          1930 Standard Tudor $495 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1931 Standard Tudor $490 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1931 Deluxe Tudor $525 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          Production Paint Colors 1930 55B
          Standard Tudor
          Lower Body & Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr
          & Sill Molding
          Stripe
          Andalusite Blue Black French Gray (1)
          Andalusite Blue Black Aurora Red (6)
          Lombard Blue Black Hessian Blue (2)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Copra Drab Chicle Drab Straw (3)
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw
          Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Tacoma Cream
          Black Black Vermilion (4)
          Black Black Apple Green (5)
          (1) Early 1930 only (4) Dropped September 1930
          (2) Available September 1930 (5) Available October 1930
          (3) Dropped November 1930 (6) Dropped August 1930
          Production Paint Colors 1931 55B
          Standard Tudor
          Lower Body Upper Body, Belt, Qtr, Sill Molding & Reveals Stripe
          Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Straw (1)
          Lombard Blue Black Hessian Blue (1)
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw (1)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Black Black Apple Green
          (1) Tacoma Cream Stripe beginning July 1931
          Production Paint Colors 1931 55B
          Deluxe Tudor
          Lower Body & Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr
          & Sill Molding
          Stripe
          Ford Maroon Black Vermilion
          Brewster Green Black Apple Green
          Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw (1)
          Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Black Black Apple Green
          (1) Tacoma Cream Stripe beginning July 1931


          1929 -30 Town Car 140A
          stories29 140A 1 web
          1929 Town Car 140A
          stories29 140A 2 web 1929 Town Car 140A stories29 140A 3 web
          1929 Town Car 140A
          stories29 140A 4 web(2)
          1929 Town Car 140A
          Domestic Production Numbers
          1928 89
          1929 913
          1930 63
          Cost:

          1928 Town Car (Unavailable) (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1929 Town Car $1200 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1930 Town Car $1200 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          Production Paint Colors 1929 – 30 140A
          Lower Body & Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr & Sill Moulding Stripe
          Brewster Green Black Serpent Green
          Thorne Brown Black Orange (1)
          Black Black Gold
          Mulberry Maroon Black Coach Vermilion (2)
          Madras Carbuncle Black Casino Red (3)
          (1) Gold or Silver Gray stripe also used
          (2) Dropped January 1929
          (3) Available January 1929
          1930 -31 Victoria 190A

          stories190A 31 1 web
          .
          1931 Victoria 190A (Steel Back)
          stories190A 31 3 web
          .
          1931 Victoria 190A (Steel Back)
          stories190A 31 4 web
          .
          1931 Victoria 190A (Steel Back)
          stories190A 31 2 web
          .
          1931 Victoria 190A (Leather Back)
          stories190A 31 5 web.
          .
          1931 Victoria 190A (Leather Back)
          Domestic Production Numbers
          1930 6,306
          1931 33,906
          Cost: 1930 Victoria $580 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          1931 Victoria $580 (F.O.B. Detroit)
          .
          Production Paint Colors 1930-31 190A
          Lower Body & Reveals Upper Body, Belt, Qtr & Sill Moulding Stripe
          Brewster Green Black Apple
          Ford Maroon Black (2) Vermilion
          Kewanee Green (3) Elkpoint Green Apple Green
          Chicle Drab (3) Copra Drab Straw (1)
          Black Black Apple Green
          (1) Tacoma Cream stripe beginning July 1931
          (2) Sill moulding is lower body color
          (3) Reveals are upper body color
          1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
          2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

          Henry Ford said
          "It's all nuts and bolts"


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          • #7
            Taken from the MARC website!

            1928/1929 OPEN


            1928-1929 OPEN MODEL AS – FACTORY DATA

            Open Body Styles
            Name Body type Year
            Std. Phaeton 35A 1928-29
            Std. Roadster 40A 1928-29
            Cabriolet 68A 1929
            1928 – 29 Phaeton 35A

            NOTE: The following three pictures are believed to be different views of the same phaeton. I do not recall seeing the 2 side views elsewhere. With the 2 side views enlarged and enhanced a few features become apparent that this may be a preproduction or prototype. The pictures were most likely taken in the late fall of 1927. (F.P.)
            storiesearly 28 phaeton front web 1927 Phaeton 35A storiesearly 28 phaeton front side web 1927 Phaeton 35A storiesearly 28 phaeton side web 1927 Phaeton 35A storiesearly 28 phaeton side clamp(1)Note the rear bumper clamp
            stories35A1 web(1) Early 1928 Phaeton 35A stories35A2 web(1) Early 1928 Phaeton 35A stories35A3 web(1) Late 1928/ early 29 Phaeton 35A stories35A4 web(1)Late 1928/ early 29 Phaeton 35A
            Domestic Production Numbers
            1927 221
            1928 47,255
            1929 49,818
            Cost:
            1928 $395 (F.O.B. Detroit)
            1929 $440 (F.O.B. Detroit)
            Production Paint Colors 1928 35A
            Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Stripe
            Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue French Gray
            Niagara Blue, Dark Duchess Blue French Gray
            Arabian Sand, Light Copra Drab French Gray
            Arabian Sand, Dark Copra Drab French Gray
            Dawn Gray, Dark Gunmetal Blue French Gray
            Gunmetal Blue Dawn Gray, Dark Straw
            .
            Production Paint Colors 1929 35A
            Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Stripe
            Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Straw (1)
            Rose Beige Seal Brown Orange
            Balsam Green Valley Green Medium Cream
            Andalusite Blue Black French Gray
            Thorne Brown Black Gold (2)
            (1) Dropped May 1929
            (2) Available October 1929
            1928 – 29 Roadster 40A
            stories40A 1 web(1) 1928 – 29 Roadster 40A stories40A 2 web Early 1928 Roadster 40A stories40A 3 web 1929 Roadster 40A
            Domestic Production Numbers
            1927 269
            1928 81,937
            1929 191,529
            Cost:

            1928 $385 (F.O.B. Detroit)
            1929 $435 (F.O.B. Detroit)
            Production Paint Colors 1928 40A
            Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Stripe
            Niagara Blue, Light Duchess Blue French Gray
            Niagara Blue, Dark Duchess Blue French Gray
            Arabian Sand, Light Copra Drab French Gray
            Arabian Sand, Dark Copra Drab French Gray
            Dawn Gray, Dark Gunmetal Blue French Gray
            Gunmetal Blue Dawn Gray, Dark Straw
            .
            Production Paint Colors 1929 40A
            Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Stripe
            Bonnie Gray Chelsea Blue Straw (1)
            Rose Beige Seal Brown Orange
            Balsam Green Valley Green Medium Cream
            Andalusite Blue Black French Gray
            Thorne Brown Black Gold (2)
            (1) Dropped May 1929
            (2) Available October 1929
            .

            1929 Cabriolet 68A

            bodyst2 stories29 cab 3 web(1)_small
            1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
            2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

            Henry Ford said
            "It's all nuts and bolts"


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            • #8
              Taken from the MARC website!

              1930/1931 OPEN


              1930-1931 OPEN MODEL AS – FACTORY DATA

              Open Body Styles
              Name Body type Year
              Std. Phaeton 35B 1930-31
              Std. Roadster 40B 1930-31
              Dlx. Roadster 40B 1930-31
              Cabriolet 68B 1930-31
              Cabriolet 68C 1931
              Dlx. Phaeton 180A 1930-31
              Convertible Sedan 400A 1931
              1930 – 31Standard Phaeton 35B
              stories30 STD 35B 1 web(1) stories30 STD 35B 2 web(1) stories30 STD 35B 3 web(1)
              stories30 STD 35B 4 web(1) stories30 STD 35B 5 web(1)
              Domestic Production Numbers
              Standard Phaeton 35B
              1930 16,479
              1931 4,076
              Cost:

              1930 Standard Phaeton $440 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              1931 Standard Phaeton $435 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              Production Paint Colors 1930 35B
              Standard Phaeton
              Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Stripe
              Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Orange
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
              Copra Drab Chicle Drab Straw (1)
              Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw
              Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue French Gray (6)
              Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue Aurora Red (2)
              Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Hessian Blue (3)
              Black Black Vermilion (4)
              Black Black Apple Green (5)
              (1) Dropped November 1930 (4) March to September 1930
              (2) Dropped August 1930 (5) Available October 1930
              (3) Available September 1930 (6) Early 1930 only
              Production Paint Colors 1931 35B
              Standard Phaeton
              Body Belt, Qtr, and Sill Molding Stripe
              Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Straw (1)
              Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Hessian Blue (1)
              Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw (1)
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
              Black Black Apple Green
              (1) Tacoma Cream Stripe beginning July 1931
              1930 Deluxe Roadster 40B
              stories30 40B del 1 web(2)
              1930 Deluxe Roadster 40B
              stories30 40B del 2 web(1)
              1930 Deluxe Roadster 40B
              stories3140B del 1 web(1)
              1931 Deluxe Roadster 40B
              stories31 40B del 3 web(1)
              1931 Deluxe Roadster 40B
              Domestic Production Numbers
              Standard Roadster 40B
              1930 112,901
              1931 5,499
              Domestic Production Numbers
              Deluxe Roadster 40B
              1930 11,318
              1931 52,997
              Cost:

              1930 Std Roadster $450 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              1930 Deluxe Roadster $520 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              1931 Std Roadster $430 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              1931 Deluxe Roadster $475 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              Production Paint Colors 1930 40B
              Standard Roadster
              Body Belt, Qtr & Sill Molding Stripe
              Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Orange
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
              Copra Drab Chicle Drab Straw (1)
              Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw
              Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue French Gray (6)
              Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue Aurora Red (2)
              Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Hessian Blue (3)
              Black Black Vermilion (4)
              Black Black Apple Green (5)
              (1) Dropped November 1930 (4) March to September 1930
              (2) Dropped August 1930 (5) Available October 1930
              (3) Available September 1930 (6) Early 1930 only
              Production Paint Colors 1930 40B
              Deluxe Roadster
              Body Belt, Qtr, & Sill Molding Stripe
              Washington Blue Riviera Blue Tacoma Cream
              Black Black Aurora Red (1)
              Black Black Apple Green (2)
              Brewster Green Black Apple Green (2)
              Stone Brown Stone Deep Gray Tacoma Cream (3)
              Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Tacoma Cream
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
              Chicle Drab Copra Drab Tacoma Cream
              Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue Aurora Red (4)
              Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Hessian Blue (5)
              Ford Maroon Black Aurora Red
              Bronson Yellow Seal Brown Orange
              (1) Dropped September 1930 (4) Dropped August 1930
              (2) Available October 1930 (5) Available September 1930
              (3) Available July 1930
              Production Paint Colors 1931 40B
              Standard Roadster
              Body Belt, Qtr, and Sill Molding Stripe
              Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Straw (1)
              Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Hessian Blue (1)
              Chicle Drab Copra Drab Straw (1)
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
              Black Black Apple Green
              (1) Tacoma Cream Stripe beginning July 1931
              Production Paint Colors 1931 40B
              Deluxe Roadster
              Body Belt, Qtr, & Sill Molding Stripe
              Washington Blue Riviera Blue Tacoma Cream
              Stone Brown Stone Deep Gray Tacoma Cream
              Brewster Green Black Apple Green
              Black Black Apple Green
              1931 Slant Window Cabriolet 68C
              stories68C 1 web stories68C 2 web stories68C 3 web stories68C 5 web
              Domestic Production Numbers
              1931 ————
              Cost:

              1931 Slant Window Cabriolet $630 (F.O.B. Detroit)

              Production Paint Colors 1931 68C
              Lower Body Upper Body, Deck, Belt, Qtr, & Sill Molding Reveals Stripe
              Brewster Green Black Brewster Green Apple Green
              Bronson Yellow Seal Brown Bronson Yellow Orange (1)
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Kewanee Green Apple Green
              Moleskin Brown,
              Light
              Moleskin Brown, Light Moleskin Brown, Light French Gray (2)
              Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Hessian Blue (2)
              Black Black Black Apple Green
              Ford Maroon Ford Maroon Black Vermilion (3)
              (1) Vermilion stripe beginning July 1931
              (2) Tacoma Cream stripe beginning July 1931
              (3) Available after July 1931


              1930 – 31 Deluxe Phaeton 180A

              .
              stories30 180A2 web stories30 180A3 web stories30 180A4 web stories30 180A5 web
              Domestic Production Numbers
              Deluxe Phaeton 180A
              1930 3,946
              1931 2,229
              Cost:
              1930 Deluxe Phaeton $625 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              1931 Deluxe Phaeton $580 (F.O.B. Detroit)
              Production Paint Colors 1930 180A
              Deluxe Phaeton
              Body Belt, Qtr, & Sill Molding Stripe
              Washington Blue Riviera Blue Tacoma Cream
              Black Black Aurora Red (1)
              Black Black Apple Green (2)
              Brewster Green Black Apple Green (2)
              Stone Brown Stone Deep Gray Tacoma Cream (3)
              Thorne Brown Thorne Brown Tacoma Cream
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green Apple Green
              Chicle Drab Copra Drab Tacoma Cream
              Andalusite Blue Andalusite Blue Aurora Red (4)
              Lombard Blue Lombard Blue Hessian Blue (5)
              Ford Maroon Black Aurora Red
              Bronson Yellow Seal Brown Orange
              (1) Dropped September 1930 (4) Dropped August 1930
              (2) Available October 1930 (5) Available September 1930
              (3) Available July 1930
              Production Paint Colors 1931 180A
              Deluxe Phaeton
              Body Belt, Qtr, & Sill Molding Stripe
              Washington Blue Riviera Blue Tacoma Cream
              Stone Brown Stone Deep Gray Tacoma Cream
              Brewster Green Black Apple Green
              Black Black Apple Green
              1930 – 31 Roadster 40B 1931 Convertible Sedan 400A

              stories400A 1 web(1) stories400A 2 web(1) stories400A 4 web(1)
              stories400A 5 web(1) stories400A 6 web(1)
              Domestic Production Numbers
              1931 4,864
              Cost:

              Convertible Sedan $640 (F.O.B. Detroit)

              Production Paint Colors 1931 400A Convertible Sedan – Standard Colors
              Upper & Lower Body Belt & Sill
              Molding
              Reveals Stripe
              Washington Blue Washington Blue Riviera Blue Tacoma Cream
              Brewster Green Brewster Green Black Apple Green
              Copra Drab Copra Drab Chicle Drab Straw (1)
              Ford Maroon (4) Ford Maroon Tampa Red Vermilion
              Black Black Black Apple Green
              Aqua Green Gray Green (2) Gray Green Tacoma Cream
              .
              Production Paint Colors 1931 400A Convertible Sedan – Optional Colors
              .
              Upper & Lower Body Belt & Sill
              Molding
              Reveals Stripe
              Ford Maroon Black Black Vermilion
              Brewster Green Black Black Apple Green
              Copra Drab Chicle Drab (3) Chicle Drab Straw (1)
              Kewanee Green Elkpoint Green (5) Elkpoint Green Apple Green
              Bronson Yellow (7) Seal Brown Bronson Yellow Orange (6)
              (1) Stripe changed to Tacoma Cream July 1931
              (2) Top Rail may also be trim color
              (3) Most sill mouldings were body color
              (4) Added July 1931
              (5) Sill moulding always body color
              (6) Vermilion stripe July 1931
              (7) Upper body Seal Brown
              1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
              2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

              Henry Ford said
              "It's all nuts and bolts"


              Mitch's Auto Service ctr

              Comment


              • #9
                Taken from the MARC website!

                1928 TO 1921 COMMERCIAL


                1928 – 1931 COMMERCIAL MODEL AS – FACTORY DATA

                Commercial Body Styles
                Name Body type Year
                Dlx. Pickup 66A 1931
                Open Cab Pickup 76A 1928-29
                Open Cab Pickup 76B 1930-31
                Pickup 78A 1928-31
                Pickup 78B 1931
                A Panel Delivery 79A 1928-30
                A Panel Delivery 79B 1930-31
                Closed Cab Pickup 82A 1928-30
                Closed Cab Pickup 82B 1930-31
                AA Panel Delivery 85A 1928-30
                AA Panel Delivery 85B 1930-31
                Dlx. Delivery 130A 1928-30
                Dlx. Delivery 130B 1930-31
                Dlx. Delivery (Drop Floor) 130B 1930-31
                1~1931 Tudor ~ Dad
                2~1930 Tudor's ~ Lucy & Paul

                Henry Ford said
                "It's all nuts and bolts"


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                • plyfor
                  plyfor commented
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                  '31Slant window fordors and town sedans ?

                • Mitch
                  Mitch commented
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                  This is all they had on their site. Feel free to add onto this thread

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