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    So what month(s) was this panel used? I know what page it's on in the standards, what's your take and why?

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  • #2
    My standards is buried under manuals and catalogs. I only know it's butler finish. Now I'm going to get beat up for this but what I wish the repops would do is make this in stainless. Yeah I know not original but at least it wouldn't rust.

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    • #3
      On a early 28 the flange encircles the entire panel. Can't see the top in the pic
      4~ Tudor's
      1~ Coupe

      Henry Ford said,
      "It's all nuts and bolts"


      Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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      • #4
        The flange is clipped
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        • #5
          The top is "clipped" and the lower screw holes are counter sunk,..I believe it's the 3rd. design..

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          • #6
            Yup..3rd design. July 28 till June 30.
            I'm looking for one with the clipped top, not counter sunk mounting (2/28 till 9/28)
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            • #7
              LOL,...I found ONE for my mid-28 Roadster!,...that's the only one I've found..

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              • #8
                Would you be able to post photos of the mounting holes?
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                • #9
                  Jim,...here you go..look okay?
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                  • Jim Mason
                    Jim Mason commented
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                    What's the diameter of that machined hole?

                • #10
                  So Jims lower mounting holes are stamped and Dudleys are machined. Correct?
                  4~ Tudor's
                  1~ Coupe

                  Henry Ford said,
                  "It's all nuts and bolts"


                  Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                  • #11
                    ​The standards refer to the 2nd version mounting hole as machined,


                    Studio_20180208_193928.jpg and the 3rd version as dimpled.
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                    • #12
                      .265",.....17/64"

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                      • Jim Mason
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                        Thanks!

                    • #13
                      Jim and others,..
                      After the subject came up and Jim asked about the size of the holes,..I LOOKED REAL CLOSE AT THE HOLES.
                      Now I'm not sure if this panel is 100% original,..the holes could have been drilled! IF you blow up the photos, you can see a slight champer around the screw holes.
                      I think I'm back to looking..

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                      • #14
                        Looking in the standards the hole also looks chamfered. I wonder if they punched it, then a light chamfer for the bolt?
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                        • #15
                          From the standards

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                          • #16
                            I looked,..I also dug out a 10-32 "flat head" Allen screw (best that I could do) to check the fit,..looks okay. The head OD is .372" - .375",...do you know the head OD of an original screw?

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                            • #17
                              January 28 parts list calls out: no.10-32 USF x 7/16 french head screw nickel plated

                              The originals are buried in a very cold shop
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                              • #18
                                Sorry,..gez...I could have looked that up!
                                That should fit nicely!
                                BTW,..I measured the OD of the champer on the panel that we think is a style 2,...then did the same on a style 3,...there the same! Drill a panel and look,..I think you
                                kinda know were I'm going with this...?

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                                • #19
                                  Yeah, that was the reason for asking the size of the hole. grin

                                  I've done some looking and can't find the dememsions on a french head screw. seems doc did an article on them, although I remember something wrong with his conclusion.
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                                  • #20
                                    Originally posted by Jim Mason View Post
                                    January 28 parts list calls out: no.10-32 USF x 7/16 french head screw nickel plated

                                    The originals are buried in a very cold shop
                                    Jim,...Do you know were I can view a "French head" screw,...I did look around and all I found was Button head. Is that what they look like?

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                                    • #21
                                      Model A news 2001 Vol. 48, issue 1, page 12-13. I haven't looked at it since it was issued, but it seems to me Marco T. said one of the screws shown was repop. if anybody digs it out I'd like to see the photo. My MAN are buried in a very cold shop.
                                      Here's the drawing from the standard parts book. picture still needed.

                                      Studio_20180214_155904.jpg
                                      Last edited by Jim Mason; 02-14-2018, 04:01 PM.
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                                      • #22
                                        French head screws/bolts:
                                        A20211 cowl lamp to bracket (June 1929)
                                        instrument panel mounting screw (oct. 28)
                                        rear view mirror to body feb. 31)
                                        A20214 rear view mirror to body (prior oct. 28)
                                        A20216 intrument panel mounting (until April 28)
                                        A20600 front splash shield to hood shelf (after E28) (called french head in front
                                        of standard parts book, and oval head machine screw later)
                                        A30525 headlamp focusing screw (28-29 headlamps)
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                                        • #23
                                          I always thought of French Head as being another name for oval head.

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                                          • #24
                                            Originally posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post
                                            I always thought of French Head as being another name for oval head.
                                            Doesn't one have a flat relief on the outer edge of the head?
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                                            • #25
                                              Lousy pic of a french head
                                              And a oval head

                                              Relief on the edge and depth of slot?

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