Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Original Finish on 1929 Floorboards

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Original Finish on 1929 Floorboards

    I have never seen original floorboards with just a wood preservative, unless Ford had some that looks like gloss black paint. I have a pretty nice set of original dovetailed Maple floorboards from an early 1929 Tudor, and they have a lot of the original black paint on them. They also have a run or two, so it looks to me like they got a heavy spray of gloss black or were dipped into the paint and hung by an edge hole to dry. Under the original edge welt you can see the paint is not dull. I know a lot of false information keeps getting repeated on the internet, until most people think it's the truth, but my original floorboards don't lie.

    Other years might vary, but when I do my 1929 floorboards, they will be painted, as original.

  • #2
    Tom, did they have the rubber mat back in the day?

    Comment


    • #3
      Tom, I also have a set of original '28 floorboards that are preserved in black paint, and have runs from being hung up to dry, or so it appears. Very hard to beat original parts.
      You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Beauford View Post
        Tom, did they have the rubber mat back in the day?
        Yes, but mine were long gone.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post
          I have never seen original floorboards with just a wood preservative, unless Ford had some that looks like gloss black paint. I have a pretty nice set of original dovetailed Maple floorboards from an early 1929 Tudor, and they have a lot of the original black paint on them. They also have a run or two, so it looks to me like they got a heavy spray of gloss black or were dipped into the paint and hung by an edge hole to dry. Under the original edge welt you can see the paint is not dull. I know a lot of false information keeps getting repeated on the internet, until most people think it's the truth, but my original floorboards don't lie.

          Other years might vary, but when I do my 1929 floorboards, they will be painted, as original.
          My original early hardwood floorboards look as you described yours.

          Comment


          • #6
            The JS calls for a dull sheen if i remember correctly
            3 ~ Tudor's
            Henry Ford said
            "It's all nuts and bolts"


            Mitch's Auto Service ctr

            Comment


            • #7
              The M sheet for the wood preservative reads similar to the asphaltum 'paint' used on the fenders with wax added. the original boards I've seen the waxy look can be seen (dull sheen)
              http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

              Comment


              • #8
                Not much paint left on my original floor boards. Can see traces at the top inch or so of the toe board. Mine are not useable for anything other than a good pattern. Rod
                "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

                Comment


                • #9
                  The certifiably original 1928 boards I have seen look like they have a thin coating of some black material, almost like a heavy stain, rather than a solid black paint. But I have only seen two sets that absolutely for sure qualify. The boards in my July 1929 Tudor are early plywood and had no indication of any preservative of any color or kind when I bought the car in 1961. I got it from the original owner, and it had been in his barn since 1954, so I am pretty certain they are original boards. The back seat floorboard is the same.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    November 28 Tudor floorboard.

                    http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Here are the M sheets

                      20180112_180409.jpg20180112_180331.jpg
                      http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        That's good info Jim. Was it similar with pre-Jan 1930 specs?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I've not found any earlier references. I'm sure they are out there
                          http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Jim,

                            As Ray expressed...that is some great information. I wonder if Ford changed the way of "finishing" wood parts early in 1930? Must have.

                            Sure would like someone to go to the archives and look at the drawings and Part Releases on these wood parts...sometimes they give you "hints" or really tell the story of the part itself down to the finish.

                            Pluck

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post
                              I have never seen original floorboards with just a wood preservative, unless Ford had some that looks like gloss black paint. I have a pretty nice set of original dovetailed Maple floorboards from an early 1929 Tudor, and they have a lot of the original black paint on them. They also have a run or two, so it looks to me like they got a heavy spray of gloss black or were dipped into the paint and hung by an edge hole to dry. Under the original edge welt you can see the paint is not dull. I know a lot of false information keeps getting repeated on the internet, until most people think it's the truth, but my original floorboards don't lie.

                              Other years might vary, but when I do my 1929 floorboards, they will be painted, as original.
                              My original early 1929 Tudor Floorboards are the same as Tom's...painted.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Jim
                                How did you obtain that documentation, directly from Benson?
                                3 ~ Tudor's
                                Henry Ford said
                                "It's all nuts and bolts"


                                Mitch's Auto Service ctr

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Don't remember whence it came.

                                  I believe the release was about the same time the switch from dovetailed hardwood to plywood.
                                  http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    I would like to make my own floorboards for my 1929 Tudor. Does anyone know where I can get a dimensional drawing?

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Hey webengr, WELCOME to the VFF!!

                                      There are dimensional drawings posted somewhere here for footboards, and floorboards. I'm sure Mitch knows where they are.

                                      Found them!


                                      http://www.stevewatrous.com/modelaford_p2.html
                                      You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by webengr View Post
                                        I would like to make my own floorboards for my 1929 Tudor. Does anyone know where I can get a dimensional drawing?
                                        Here you go. http://www.stevewatrous.com/modelaford_p2.html .



                                        Bob
                                        Last edited by Bob C; 05-01-2019, 10:53 AM.

                                        Comment


                                        • #21
                                          For original dovetail type boards see this link. http://forums.aa-fords.com/viewtopic...it=floor+board

                                          Comment


                                          • #22
                                            Welcome webengr!!

                                            We have this in our tech forum

                                            https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...ard-dimensions
                                            3 ~ Tudor's
                                            Henry Ford said
                                            "It's all nuts and bolts"


                                            Mitch's Auto Service ctr

                                            Comment


                                            • #23
                                              I use WOODLIFE® CreoCoat® Black Wood Preservative. It dries flat black, covers well and imparts a waxy feel when dry with no odor.

                                              Comment


                                              • #24
                                                The product I used for fine point “Gilsonite”.
                                                You do not have permission to view this gallery.
                                                This gallery has 3 photos.

                                                Comment

                                                Related Topics

                                                Collapse

                                                • Fordfan29
                                                  1917 paint gloss question
                                                  by Fordfan29
                                                  How much gloss did the original 1917 'T' paint have from the factory? Was the paint lacquer? What is an acceptable substitute type of paint for lacquer? How was it applied to the fenders & to the body?

                                                  I'd appreciate any information to keep this car as close to original as possible, even though it will be a driver....
                                                  01-28-2020, 01:19 AM
                                                • SeaSlugs
                                                  28-early 29 floor board paint?
                                                  by SeaSlugs
                                                  So im getting a set of floor boards done - dovetailed wood plank style, all holes cut for AA with dual high pedals, holes drilled for support straps - went to old ace hardware for #12x3/4 screws with slotted head, but unsure of what to use to stain or paint them. I tested on the upper board near the pedals with black minwax polystain. Soaked in nicely to the end grain and will preserve it forever...
                                                  09-03-2018, 09:42 PM
                                                • ClaudeC
                                                  improve car appearance for original paint car
                                                  by ClaudeC
                                                  I have an original paint car, paint is scratched in many places. It looks uniform when I apply Gibbs oil, it fills I the scratches. I know other people that do the same thing to their origin paint car. I was wondering if there are any other ways to achieve a more lasting finish.
                                                  04-25-2020, 06:49 PM
                                                • carolinamudwalker
                                                  Black paint
                                                  by carolinamudwalker
                                                  I need to paint the panels just above the running boards. The fenders have been painted with a base coat/clear coat. My problem is I don't want to buy a gallon of paint. I think it was Tom W. that recommended a very black paint from one of the auto parts stores but I could not find that thread. I prefer a paint with a hardener for spraying. Any suggestions?
                                                  02-17-2019, 12:22 PM
                                                • Great Lakes Greg
                                                  Torque tube finish
                                                  by Great Lakes Greg
                                                  The judging standards state that the torque tube could have an "irregular finish". The one I am working on looks like rust pits under paint. Is it wishful thinking that this is the irregular finish described? It would take a lot of high build primer to make a smooth surface.
                                                  11-01-2020, 07:58 PM
                                                • 1929fordormurray
                                                  Colors
                                                  by 1929fordormurray
                                                  When my fordor is done being restored, we have decided that it will be paint in period-correct blue. Does anyone know where I can buy Model A paint? The car was built in 1929 in Canada.
                                                  12-10-2020, 07:24 PM
                                                • Jeff/Illinois
                                                  '29 Tudor MAFCA's A of the day 9-10-20
                                                  by Jeff/Illinois
                                                  Talk about a SHARP '29 Tudor! I about flipped when I saw this one. Owned by a guy in California whom I don't know, Dennis Kliesen. It's on the MAFCA site.

                                                  Our early Jan. 29 Tudor with '28 carryovers was originally this color. I loved that car one of the nicest Model A's I ever drove or owned. So I have a soft spot for them anyway. I always said if I hit a bunch of money I'd like to buy...
                                                  09-10-2020, 12:52 PM
                                                • ClaudeC
                                                  Model A engine splash pans original paint?
                                                  by ClaudeC
                                                  is there any way to tell if the pans I have original paint?
                                                  07-06-2020, 08:38 AM
                                                • Bobm90
                                                  Paint in "Rattle Cans"
                                                  by Bobm90
                                                  I have always used paint in so-called rattle cans whenever painting metal objects was desired due mostly to the fact I never had a desire to own paint spraying equipment or had something large enough to require it, also I have - NO SKILLS. Although many people use good old Rustoleum I have never been a fan because it takes forever to dry to the touch, always seems soft unless it drys for days, scrapes...
                                                  02-27-2020, 09:32 AM
                                                • Steve Plucker
                                                  Paint schemes...
                                                  by Steve Plucker
                                                  In Section 1 (Engine Compartment) and Section 4 (Undercarriage) of the Standards, the paint schemes per part are spelled out.
                                                  Now we go to Area 7 (Brake System) and very little is told about the individual brake parts being a specific "black" color.
                                                  Can you please tell me what parts are:
                                                  1. Satin Black
                                                  2. Semi-gloss Black
                                                  3. Gloss Black
                                                  I just can not...
                                                  04-10-2019, 11:07 PM
                                                Working...
                                                X