Glass bug etching

[Mitch]

Well i see that the JS revision 2016 shows the correct location. When i installed my bug's this info was not available so i put it how it looked good

[Mark Maron]

Looks like you might be changing it then. Bahahahahahahhaa. Lol!!

[Mitch]

Yea after all these years there were no guidelines and then they magically appear. That's not cool and should be exempt

[Mark Maron]

Actually my young padawan, it was in the last standards if you looked at it carefully....

[Mitch]

Where does it state the location on the earlier revisions? I guess i'm blind and anyone i asked at the time could not answer that question.

[Mitch]

Well at the time i did mine the info was not available

[Tom Wesenberg]

OK, I'm lost here. What are you guys talking about?

[Mitch]

OK, I'm lost here. What are you guys talking about?

We are talking about the winshield glass etching and the location of the bug.

The newest revisions has the proper location for the placement on the windshield.


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[Mitch]

For those that are interested you can order the kit with your proper build date from Mike Driscoll. Here is his Ebay auctions for them.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=351273393165&globalID=EBAY-US

[Mitch]

Shown below is the complete kit. I have one bug leftover after practicing and doing both my cars..

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[Mark Maron]

His products work PERFECT

[Neil Wilson]

RGJS 10-3 shows "Windshield Trademark Location" as per the first photo attached. I want to have the trademark as shown in the second photo (from 10-3). It height would be greater than 7/16". It is to be centered 1-3/4" from the left edge - great. What about the distance from the bottom? Should it be 1-1/4" to the bottom edge of the trademark and I should just ignore the 7/16" measurement?

[Mitch]

Neil that is what I was thinking. 1-1/4 to the bottom of the bug. Don't take my word for it, someone from the JS will see this and answer it for you.

[Mark Maron]

Ok the judges are NOT going to use a tape measure you can be sure. Here is what we are looking for on the outside of the glass. You cannot of course get it is between the glass Luke originals. But this could help you Neil and everyone. Also we are 1-3/4 from the outer edge of the passenger side and APPROX only 1-1/4 from bottom.

[Mitch]

So the exact location is not critical? Different bugs are different sizes

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

If I still had Vermin, I'd ETCH Lady Bugs on ALL the windows---LOL
I do stained glass & know how to do it. I'd use my Harbor Freight Plug Cleaner, for a sand blaster. I once blasted a whole carbonator with it! (If I speld right, someone would think I wus an IMPOSTER!)
Fun KDad

[Mark Maron]

Mitch its not "critical" to the exact measurement BUT at the same time you want to keep within the parameters best you can

[Neil Wilson]

Ok the judges are NOT going to use a tape measure you can be sure. Here is what we are looking for on the outside of the glass. You cannot of course get it is between the glass Luke originals. But this could help you Neil and everyone. Also we are 1-3/4 from the outer edge of the passenger side and APPROX only 1-1/4 from bottom.

Hmm.... I have found out that the image in the RGJS is actually for a 1930-31 quarter window taken from Vincent Falter's site at http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/glassdetails.htm. That is why the image does not look like a windshield and the trademark shown is not valid for a windshield. If the measurements are also correct for the windshield glass, then the trademark will be about .3" less in both direction after being installed in a windshield frame.

FYI - I am writing an article for the Double A'er (Ford Model AA Truck Club) about windshield assembly A-79405 (for 79-A, 82-A, 85-A). It would be good to have valid information in the article. I have created the attached for the article (subject to change if incorrect).

[Mark Maron]

Neil look at the pic i posted of our 29 Windshield #12, that about as good as its going to get. I can do measurements for you tonight if you like...

[Neil Wilson]

Mark, yes measurements would be of interest

[d.j. moordigian]

Mark,...do the measurements, please..
Thank you..

[Mark Maron]

OK guys I will ....just saw this...

[Mitch]

subscribe to the thread or even to the whole fine point forum.

[Mark Maron]

About a month ago or so there were some questions on the BUG on the windshield and location, I was asked to take pics from our 29 roadster and did so. Hope this helps some out.

[BNCHIEF]

I have a question when did these start appearing on glass on ford cars?

[Mark Maron]

from the beginning. Laminated Safety glass bore a trademark on them. With that said, Wind Wings after 1930 also had them

[BNCHIEF]

Ok thanks Mark you answered my question I was wondering if late 1927 model t Fords had them, so this was on the laminated safety glass not the original heavier plate glass used earlier before safety glass came out. Thank you very much. I am really looking forward to the judging at my first Model A national.

[plyfor]

Having reviewed the posts about glass etching, I couldn't find the Model A kit shown on the 3rd Gen auto website . But it is listed on Ebay. Does anyone know how many stencils are in the kit and who has stencils for the side glass shown in the JS's, or are there any companies to custom make a sheet of the stencils to use with the etching paste?