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    I need to see some pictures or drawings of how the wires are routed for a 29 Tudor. It has cowl lights. I have attached some pictures that I took before disassembly but they do not seem correct.
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    Why is there never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over?

  • #2
    Fred
    picture #6's cowl light feed wiring is correct
    Overall i think your looking pretty good, but others may see something.

    https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...wiring-diagram

    3 ~ Tudor's
    Henry Ford said
    "It's all nuts and bolts"


    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mitch View Post
      Fred
      picture #6's cowl light feed wiring is correct
      Overall i think your looking pretty good, but others may see something.

      https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...wiring-diagram
      Thanks--

      So the cowl light wires come from the light switch and into the interior through the body at the left cowl as in the picture?

      I ran across this pix online, and it shows that the wire goes through the firewall at the terminal box. It also shows a bracket there to support the wire. Is that correct?

      Also, what supports the wire as it is routed from the left cowl light to the right cowl light? As in pix #1
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      • Dennis
        Dennis commented
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        And don't let that coil get away. You don't see them at the swap meets out here.

    • #4
      This picture which is in the JS and the service bulletins shows the cowl light wiring feeding into the kick panel. I am not sure if there is a bracket across the cowl in the middle or not.

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      3 ~ Tudor's
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      • Dennis
        Dennis commented
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        And then Mitch posts this just before I had. I'd like to find one of those A-13335 switch. Drape your wire from cowl light to cowl light over the top of the wires coming in from the junction box.

    • #5
      I'd take the new cowl light harness and try both locations, up from the floorboard or through the junction box. I'd have to look at your harness to see how long each wire is from where it splits to each of the cowl lights. I know the electric wiper wire goes from the junction box to the the passenger side A pillar and across to the wiper. Notice the clips at the front interior firewall that are attached to the cowl fuel tank clamp with a grommet on each side. They also hold the interior panel at the top front. If it were me I'd hold each pigtail to the cowl light and find the best fit down to the pigtail of your harness down by the light switch. I never had cowl lights on mine so there were no wires routed in the location you show in picture number 6. It is a good place to go up through though. I have several wires not original on mine routed through there to a fuse block.

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      • Mitch
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        What Dennis said about draping it over the incoming junction box wires. I am positive it comes in through the kick area as shown tho

      • Dennis
        Dennis commented
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        I agree with Mitch with the wires coming up. Thanks for posting that picture, Mitch.

    • #6
      Originally posted by Dennis View Post
      I'd take the new cowl light harness and try both locations, up from the floorboard or through the junction box. I'd have to look at your harness to see how long each wire is from where it splits to each of the cowl lights. I know the electric wiper wire goes from the junction box to the the passenger side A pillar and across to the wiper. Notice the clips at the front interior firewall that are attached to the cowl fuel tank clamp with a grommet on each side. They also hold the interior panel at the top front. If it were me I'd hold each pigtail to the cowl light and find the best fit down to the pigtail of your harness down by the light switch. I never had cowl lights on mine so there were no wires routed in the location you show in picture number 6. It is a good place to go up through though. I have several wires not original on mine routed through there to a fuse block.
      I guess Ford was not worried about the wires shorting out near the gas tank after rubbing on each other at that terminal area??? It seems like a bad situation!
      Why is there never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over?

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      • #7
        Originally posted by Mitch View Post
        This picture which is in the JS and the service bulletins shows the cowl light wiring feeding into the kick panel. I am not sure if there is a bracket across the cowl in the middle or not.

        IMG_8105.JPG
        Did all 29's have that separate cowl light switch? I think that this 29 that I am working on had the cowl lights operated from the steering wheel light switch. Is there a way to tell if the light switch that I have will operate the cowl lights?
        Why is there never enough time to do it right, but always enough time to do it over?

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        • #8
          I believe it was the dealer installed cars had the separate switch
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          • #9
            One of the things that must be considered here is that ALL of the '29 cowl lights were an after thought. From what I have been able to gather, the cowl lights were offered only after Nov '28 when the first ones were factory installed on the Towncars, and only available as a dealer item or special order from the factory. So I think that unless you can prove you have a later '29 where it was a factory installed item on a deluxe Town Sedan, the actual running of the wires would have been as the Service Bulletins show the dealers where to run them. Looking at the diagram Mitch posted would be the basic installation. I don't believe anything came with cowl lights until the Deluxe models were available, so if your car has the holes drilled for the cowl lights and is not one of the Deluxe models, it was more than likely a dealer installed item.
            You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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            • #10
              The 1929 Town Car, Town Sedan and Cabriolet would have had factory cowl lights.
              Does you car have twolite head lights and if so do they have the parking light bulbs in the reflectors?

              Bob

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              • #11
                I agree with Bob C on the cowl lights. The Twolite came along in Feb 29 when they eliminated the 2 position switch and fluted lens were no longer used.

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                • #12
                  One thing I would do for sure dennis is get a rubber grommet in those cowl lite wire support brackets and also the other places where your wire touches metal not an issue now but someday it could be. On my 30 from one cowl light to the next I picked up some of those stick on wire holders at napa and out them in up high behind the gas tank to support the wire and the can always be removed. My cowl lights operate from the switch but I have a tyree harris harness in mine. Now i have converted my cowl lights to serve as turn signals which is why they have the amber fog light glasses in them.

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                  • Dennis
                    Dennis commented
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                    Yes my original wire harness brackets have one of the original wires and petrified rubber grommets in them yet. And my cowl lights aren't on my cowl so no wires there going across the bundle behind the junction box.
                    Last edited by Dennis; 11-24-2017, 09:00 PM.

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