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    Jim, Here is the early 28 stuff I made a deal on a few weeks ago. Went over and picked it up today. Unfortunate parts are someone changed out the front drums to later ones and changed out the banjo housing. Also the script springs are replaced with later ones. Still a good buy for $200. Rod
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    "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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    You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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    • #3
      Nice stuff, thanks
      http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

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      • #4
        Could not pass it up. Now to figure out where to store it until needed. Rod
        "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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        • #5
          Rod,
          About 45 years ago I found a rear end just about like your's,..early backing plates(ribbed or smooth?..can't remember), center section replaced, numbered early torque tube, cheap replacement
          shackles. The best part was a Ford script 10 leaf spring. I guess I need to look at the baking plates again! You ended up with a great find!

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          • #6
            I have a set of script springs somewhere. Both main leaves are bent at the shackle ends. Luckily I have 2 NOS rear main leaves. One of which is script. The front may have to do without a script main leaf. Now if the mud at the farm would dry up. Will spend all 4 days off next week at the farm moving the parts to my shop and getting other stuff that needs to go soon ready for ebay. Should be through the dificult parts by Thanksgiving and hopefully provide enough money to build a new storage building for the stuff we need to keep and get the parts out of my shop so I can work again. Rod
            "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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            • #7
              Rod,
              The front end is interesting. Do the tie rod ends have a zerk on the back side(30-31 style) ?,..Or no zerks? Like the leather covered joints. Looks like it has the 2nd style steering arms. Also the
              front brake actuators... Lots to look at!

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              • Rowdy
                Rowdy commented
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                I am pretty sure the tie rod and ends are later as is the pitman arm. I hope I still have an early tie rod. Lots of little things were messed with. Arms are the second style, which I beleive I have extras of also. I did not sell or trade quite all of my early parts. Wishing I would have kept one more early front hub and front fender brace. It will be several years before I get to doing much with it. Friend with the early tudor body and frame is having second thoughts about selling. Details about the numbers matching chassis I know about is still sketchy. Hoping it is Feb or early March at the latest and mostly correct. Time will tell. Even at that an early body ( not a fordor) will still be needed. Glad I am patient or I would be bald already pulling my hair out. At any rate getting things ready to begin body work on Dads coupe and converting it to a Business coupe. Rod

              • Rowdy
                Rowdy commented
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                Also one double script shackle in front and one on rear. Don'know if I have any usable double script shackles. Wonder if any of the people who showed how to build them up and turn them back down several years ago are doing these for other people. Would be nice to have a usable set of double script shackles for this. Heading back to the shop to remove the rear spring, I don't make a habbit of leaving them loaded any more. They do make nice holes in shop walls, ceilings and anything else they contact when they come apart. Rod

            • #8
              Removed the springs, drag link and pitman arm. Turns out all 4 shackles are double script, the two I thought were later just had really thick paint on them. Fronts are in usable condition, rears are really worn. Retainers are all clipped edge script without the T part number. Pitman arm is the 3rd style and has recently been reballed as have the spindle steering arms. Based on what I am seeing and assuming those parts are original to the front end I would say the car it came off of was Febuary or March of 28. Also remeasured the front drums and they are early also. Must have had some grime of some sort interferring in yesterdays measurements. Took the front hubs off and the drums are heavily grooved. Guesse you can not win them all. The rest of the front brakes look to be in decent condition. I did not remove the rears to have a peek yet. Rod
              "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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              • #9
                Rod,
                On the rear end, my backing plates are the same as your's, ribbed.
                Question,...is the torque tube serialized?.....does it have a number stamped on the top, up front?

                https://www.********.com/forum/showt...bers&showall=1

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                • Rowdy
                  Rowdy commented
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                  Dj, found the mentioned post from July 2011. Will look at some of the other tubes I have this week. Rod

              • #10
                It has the number 38 stamped on the machined area behind the bell flange. No other numbers found. Was thinking there would be more numbers that may better match the time frame of the other parts and support the Feb- March suspected time frame. Possibly I am mis-understanding something with the serial numbers matching the engine numbers. Rod
                "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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                • #11
                  Rod,..that's the lowest number found!
                  I have no idea why the transfer from the Barn to here didn't come out correct,..will try again.. We had a discussion about it, I have no idea what the numbers are for, just another mystery!

                  https://www.********.com/forum/showt...bers&showall=1

                  ...same damn thing! If you can get on the Barn, it's under " torque tube numbers" , started by me...

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                  • #12
                    To me it looks like a quality control mark to track which welder or machine made the weld. We used them for the welds at Orthmans when I worked there. With this number it could be a date of March 8th. Rod
                    "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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                    • #13
                      Dj, have one more torque tube stamped A1205. Rod
                      "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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                      • #14
                        Where is the script on the rear spring? Is it raised?

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                        • #15
                          One or more leaves may have a ford script stamped into the top surface. sometimes covered by the next leaf
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                          • #16
                            Originally posted by Dennis View Post
                            Where is the script on the rear spring? Is it raised?
                            As Jim said, it's on the top surface of one or more. The one I took apart has raised script.

                            Took apart may not be accurate, as the center bolt was rusted, and the spring flew apart, making the rear of the frame jump up a couple feet, just missing my head.

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                            • #17
                              It's amazing the crap you keep!
                              This is part of a broken rear main leaf,...on the top side..
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                              • #18
                                Hmm.. seem embossed is the answer
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                                • #19
                                  Glad someone posted pic's of the script on the springs as I did not find mine today, but also did not spend much time looking for them as I was busy taking the body off of a 37 Ford frame. Will deliver it to the person buying it tomorrow. Then back to sorting though A parts. Rod
                                  "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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