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    20170905_150718.jpg Note only one hole 20170905_121905.jpg
    Last edited by Jim Mason; 09-05-2017, 03:08 PM.
    http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

  • #2
    Interesting, Thanks Jim.

    Next time I am under my car I will need to look see which one I have.
    You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jim Mason View Post
      GORGEOUS! LOVE IT!

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      • #4
        Jim, Thanks for the pic's of that. I was able to duplicate the appearance of the spot welds using 1/4" rosette welds when replacing the plate. Looking at those spotwelds I did a good job in hindsight although I questioned myself at the time. The worst part was making the bottom plate look correct as there was only one style made at that time. Thankfully the vendors make all 3 versions of the plate now. Rod
        Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good.

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        • #5
          Mine doesn't have the brackets up top to hold the battery down. When I bought a new one they only had the one version. My original is corroded badly otherwise I would have cleaned it up and used it. Now that I have a decent welding machine maybe I can take care of that.

          What is the difference in the plate for a 28 and 29? Mine has the one hole, but the ears on the bracket are cast like Jim's.
          Last edited by Dennis; 09-06-2017, 12:16 AM.

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          • Dennis
            Dennis commented
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            I see Bert's has a part number for all three, but his pictures all look the same for the plate.

          • BILL WILLIAMSON
            BILL WILLIAMSON commented
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            "Maybe" the one with one hole was a Factory REJECT???
            Bill Suspicious

        • #6
          I bought my hold down brackets, like Jim shows in his picture, from A&L.

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          • Dennis
            Dennis commented
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            A&L... Tom, where are they located?

        • #7
          Originally posted by Dennis View Post
          A&L... Tom, where are they located?
          A & L only the best parts there are if your doing a car restoration, especially fine point if you don't have originals., in NY!!

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          • #8
            They are in CT,, no website but they do have a small catalouge available

            (860) 693-2620; or (860) 693-0112.
            Mailing address: P.O. Box 301, Canton, CT 06019-0301.
            3 ~ Tudor's
            Henry Ford said
            "It's all nuts and bolts"


            Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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            • Dennis
              Dennis commented
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              Thanks Mitch. I did a google search and saw the Canton, CT business, but wasn't sure if it was the one.

          • #9
            Originally posted by Mitch View Post
            They are in CT,, no website but they do have a small catalouge available

            (860) 693-2620; or (860) 693-0112.
            Mailing address: P.O. Box 301, Canton, CT 06019-0301.
            OK i was close...hahahahah
            ask for Allen or Bobby

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            • #10
              Not trying to hijack your thread, and please move it if need be Mitch. Does this look correct for a 2/29 assembly in LA? This is what was on my car when I got it. I noticed Bert's has a part number for each of the 3 plates, but the pictures all look the same.
              Last edited by Dennis; 09-06-2017, 03:20 PM.

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              • #11
                9/28 thru 6/29 stamped support, square plate, one drain. Look where the support mounts to the frame. yours appears to be the correct stamped end. if you look carefully at the 1st style you can see the mounting is forged.
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                • Dennis
                  Dennis commented
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                  That's what I thought about the ends. Not that I plan on having it judged, but it's fun to know.
                  Thank you Jim.

              • #12
                Your original battery tray mounts to the top side of the frame lip, but the poor quality repro my friend bought could only be bolted to the bottom side because it didn't have the correct shape on the ends.

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                • #13
                  The first style battery box, I believe, has an integral stud...part of the forging, and the second has a removable stud. Isn't this correct? The rosettes are real interesting,..I have spot welds on
                  my original off my 9-28 car.
                  My main comment or concern is the plate, are the side straight or are the "puckered".. concave.., from the pressing of the trough in the center of the plate?

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                  • Jim Mason
                    Jim Mason commented
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                    You are correct on the forged stud being used on the first preproduction cars. (Few hundred?)
                    The puckered sided plates were later.

                  • Jim Mason
                    Jim Mason commented
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                    You are right on the forged stud being used preproduction (500 cars). So guess thus would officially be the 2nd style.
                    The pucker sided plate was later

                • #14
                  Thanks Jim,
                  I guess I should check what's left of the plate on my non-restored box....duh..

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                  • #15
                    Jim,
                    NOS 28 battery box that I have. The bottom plate is spot welded in four areas on each side of the strap. One hole. Any comments welcome Jim Sinclair
                    Last edited by Midwest Tin; 10-19-2017, 09:46 PM.

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                    • Mark Maron
                      Mark Maron commented
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                      Very nice Jim....you selling it.....

                  • #16
                    I guess I need to call A&L next for some 2nd version studs. I found a decent bracket at a swap meet recently minus studs. They have a tit on the side where they go through the hole to keep the stud from turning I assume. Or do I have a 3rd version. It has a single drain hole in the middle.

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                    • #17
                      Hi Mark,
                      I purchase it for the 28 roadster.

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                      • #18
                        If I recall correctly,..the stud in the second style box (forged), used a cylinder head stud..

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                        • #19
                          You are correct. The two studs are the same as head studs. 1st box with forged mounting brackets used the studs.

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