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I was discussing the judging processes with a local Model A owner and we were mainly concerning our discussion to my plans for the engine. Since I only plan having the delivery judged once, then changing the transmission to a 39 and adding a down draft 97 carb my debate is whether to use the engine on the stand right now that has numbers in the acceptable range for judging. Then change to my number matching engine with oversized valves, counterbalanced crank, lightened flywheel and Stipe IB330 cam when the transmission swap. With a stock head and carb, how would this engine perform in the start and idle? and do the judges remove the flywheel inspection cover to see the lightened flywheel and V8 pressure plate? The engine on the stand right now will not cost a lot to get to get it back to good running condition and should hold its value to sell if needed for some of the money for the other engine. Just curious as I do not mind changing engines, but not sure I want to spend the money on both engines. Rod
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Ya know what I would do, I would swap out the engines since the judges don't ask for title to verify the engine to title numbers match.
I think this would give you the start/idle required, besides, after the judging you are swapping everything out anyway, may as well get the current engine all dialed in to the new bell housing and trans and you can get that done while going for that one judging.
You can also get that new intake dialed in too.
The judges don't get a screwdriver to loosen screws. so unless YOU open the inspection plate, who's to know? Do the judges remove the carpet/mat and the floorboards?
I think all they can do is lay under the car to visually inspect.
You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command! -
I would put the numbers matching engine in now, as it will run fine with the upgrades on a stock carb,, etc etc.
nobody will know about the flywheel
my preference is to pull the rear to get to the trans on a fresh pristine car.
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No we do not. REMOVE anything at all. We don't look at your flywheel of course.Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA
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My flywheel has gone and bit the dust and I need some ideas on how to replace it. A new flywheel is not that expensive but how to put it in is the question. Is it easier to pull the engine or to drop the rear end and pull the transmission??? The only way for me to pull the engine is to use the front-end bucket on my John Deere tractor; the backhoe is too clumsy and big. It would be scary because one...04-14-2021, 10:03 AM -
Ok I am here to ask all the experts what would be the best engine stand to buy that I could work on a Model A engine with? I am hoping to get one that will hold a Model A engine with the transmission attached. looking forward to your advise. Hugh12-13-2019, 09:55 PM -
Gentlemen I'll be pulling the Tudor's engine for cleaning, paint, health assessment, and leak sealing.
I've pulled my Mazda Miata's engine 3 times with great success but never a Model A motor. It seems easy enough and I think I can figure it all out but I'd like to know if you have any advice, tips or tricks I should be aware of before pulling the engine.
Rear axle is out
Transmission/pedals...10-10-2022, 10:45 PM -
I have decided to get the engine rebuilt in my Tudor due to the worn babbit. At the same time I am considering lightening the flywheel and installing a V8 clutch. Bratton's catalog states the crank must be counterbalanced when installing the V8 clutch. What is a counterbalanced crank? How is it done? Is this the same as a crank with counter weights added?10-02-2021, 08:10 AM -
When I received the engine back from the builder I noticed an incorrect engine numeral for my late 31 sedan delivery. The numeral six was from before March 1931.
I am doing fine point judging and was wondering what my options are at this point. Can I ask for a waiver?( other numbers are correct). Can I change just the incorrect numeral and if so how? Must I change the entire engine number?(...02-26-2023, 11:34 AM -
I have 3 A's that have the incorrect engine serial number for the car.
By doing an engine rotation, I could make each of them more correct.
Purchasing my latest A has allowed this to happen.
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Other than making me feel better about each of...10-13-2021, 09:59 AM -
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Wondering what the general concensus is among Model t engine builders on the subject of balancing.
Understanding that the Stock T crankshaft is not counterweighted. I do know that the stock flywheels can be terribly out of balance as can the transmission components.
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