Important Errors contained in the Les Andrews Books

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We have compiled a list of published errors that are in the Les Andrews texts. If you own or reference any of these books it would be prudent to make the appropriate corrections on the pages listed. For anyone that finds additional errors or the same errors listed here on other pages feel free to post your findings on this thread.

Our corrections are approx values and remember the Model A was built without using Torque wrenches. Most of the things we have listed here can be done by using common sense and feel.

This is a link to the original thread for this project where the correct procedures were discussed.
https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...-andrews-books

You may also refer to our Specifications page link where these corrections are also revised.
https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...-w-corrections


Red Book Volume 1 errors & corrections:

Engine Oil Pan Bolts Torque

page 1-146 & 1-226
error:: 20 ft. lbs

correction:: approx 8 ft. lbs ( read the above threads for more info)

Manifold to Engine Block Nuts Torque

page 1-134 table 1-5
error 45 ft. lbs

correction:: approx 25 ft. lbs

Valve Chamber Bolts Torque (valve cover)

page 1-134 table #1-5
error:: 20 ft. lbs

correction:: approx 8 ft. lbs ( should be treated the same as the oil pan)


Cam Shaft Nut Torque

page 1-134 table #1-5
error:: 100 ft lbs

correction:: approx 50 ft lbs


Timing (setting the rotor position)

page 2-18 #10
error:: The book states to set the rotor position opposite #1 contact.

correction:: Let's mention the timing section when the book says the rotor should point opposite the number one contact it means facing it. >1 the Arrow is opposite the number 1 not this way <1. If you time the engine with the rotor opposite number 1 (<1) your timing will be 180 degrees off.
note The picture does show the rotor in the correct position.

Rear Axle Nut Torque

error:: The specifications card page #1 calls for 100 ft lbs. Page 1-100 calls out 125 ft lbs.

correction:: Torque the axle nuts to no more than 75 ft lbs

Brake Rods

page 1-45
error:: The book states to adjust all 4 brake rods to 51-7/16" to 51-1/2" in length from eye to eye centers.

correction:: Service Bulletins page 202 says to adjust the brake rods by setting all the cross shaft and pedal adjustments first. then adjust the rods by removing the slack from each actuating lever until the clevis holes line up.

Emergency Brake Springs

page 1-43
error:: Diagram in the red book shows only one emergency brake band spring

correction:: There are actually two springs


Spindle Locking Pin Nut

page 1-34 #1 AND page 1-35 #9 and page 1-211 #1 & #2
error:: The book states the wrench/ socket size is 9/16th

correction:: The correct wrench size / socket to remove the spindle locking pin nut is 11/16th

Brake Actuating Arm Nut

page 1-35 #2 and page 1-211
error:: The book states the wrench/ socket size is 9/16th

correction:: The correct wrench size / socket to remove the brake actuating arm nut is 11/16th

VINTAGE FORD FORUM

Rear Motor Mount Rubber Pads

page 1-221
error::Trimming the motor mount rubber.

correction:: It is no longer needed.


Rear backing plate nuts

page 1-40, para 3.
error: The 4 castle nuts inside the grease baffle requires a 9/16 socket

correction: It requires a 5/8 socket, not 9/16.


Capacities

page 1 Specification's Card
error:: Transmission 1-1/2 pints
correction:: Transmissionn 1 pint (service bulletins pg 375)

error:: Differential 2-1/4 pints
correction:: Differential 1-1/2 pints (service bulletins pg 375)

King Pins

page 1-209
error:: The book does not mention about there being a Right and a Left KIng Pin when doing the services

correction:: Take note that there is a R & L king pin


Front Spindle Nut

Page 1-361 Wheel Bearings Castle Nut
Error: Lists the spindle nut size as 7/8-14 and the wrench size needed as 1-1/4"

Correction: The spindle nut is 3/4-16 and the wrench size should be 1-1/8"


Leaf Spring

Page 1-278 Section 2
Error: Recommends to use a lock washer on the leaf spring center (tie) bolt

Correction: A lock washer can break causing the spring pack to loosen


Stewart Warner Horn

Page 1-195 step #6
Error: Remove the ratchet nut

Correction: The ratchet nut has a left handed thread


Front spring Perch Nut

Page 1-7 step #22
Error: Use a 3/4" socket on the perch nut

Correction: It takes a 15/16" socket


Throw Out Bearing

Page 1-341 Paragraph 17
Error: No mention of the throw out bearing being a pressed fit

Correction: Throw-out bearing should be a press fit. Press fit can be done in a bench-top vise using the old throw-out bearing on the face of the new throw-out bearing. Widest O.D. of throw-out bearing should face engine


Blue Book (trouble shooting & diagnostics) Errors & Corrections:


Brakes

page 4-62 2nd paragraph in right-hand column, second sentence
error:: "In the rear wheel brakes, ....

correction:: Should be front


Green Book Vol- II Errors and corrections:

page 3-11 step #27---- See this thread

Step 27 is wrong. The windlace is not tacked to the bottom edge of the side roof rails (aka "Door Header")

Windlace A-80362 (black) and A-73468 (brown) were notched to fit around the five wood screws of the windlace-retainer-strip (aka "windlace wood strip"). The retainer was installed loose. The windlace tail was slid in between the retainers and AA-83931/32 side roof rails. The retainers were then tightened.

There was no "metal header cover plate" for an 82-A. The 82-B had a metal windlace retainer held in place with six oval head wood screws.

FYI - page heading should be for the 82-A closed cab since a "1928/1929 Pickup" could have an 82-A closed cab or 76-A open cab.
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[John Brissette Member Find all posts View Profile Close John Brissette]

Thanks Mitch! I rely on those books and have wondered about some of those points because they conflict with other pubs. Noticing the date you posted those corrections makes me realize I should have joined the forum years ago!

[Mitch Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Mitch]

Thanks Mitch! I rely on those books and have wondered about some of those points because they conflict with other pubs. Noticing the date you posted those corrections makes me realize I should have joined the forum years ago!

John, better late than never. Glad you finally made it

[BudP Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BudP]

Transmission Throw-out Bearing Should be a Press Fit:

Mitch-I have made this mistake once and caught this mistake made in previous "ground-up restoration" Model A that I bought. Mistake can occur if one is following Les's Red Book. It makes no mention of a "press-fit" for a throw-out bearing. I suggest that paragraph 17 on page 1-341 have an added, concluding sentence: "Throw-out bearing should be a press fit." Perhaps, a second following sentence could be added: "Press fit can be done in a bench-top vise using the old throw-out bearing on the face of the new throw-out bearing." And, another following sentence: "Widest O.D. of throw-out bearing should face engine."

[Mitch Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Mitch]

Transmission Throw-out Bearing Should be a Press Fit:

Mitch-I have made this mistake once and caught this mistake made in previous "ground-up restoration" Model A that I bought. Mistake can occur if one is following Les's Red Book. It makes no mention of a "press-fit" for a throw-out bearing. I suggest that paragraph 17 on page 1-341 have an added, concluding sentence: "Throw-out bearing should be a press fit." Perhaps, a second following sentence could be added: "Press fit can be done in a bench-top vise using the old throw-out bearing on the face of the new throw-out bearing." And, another following sentence: "Widest O.D. of throw-out bearing should face engine."

Bud Thank-you for the info, and including a page id. I will add that to our list

[Dilrod Jr Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dilrod]

Went through and updated my red book. I appreciate everyone's work on this, passing knowledge leaves a great legacy.

[Mitch Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Mitch]

There is a NEW correction I'm adding NOW. It's for the rear axle nut torque. The red book specification card lists the torque to be 100ft lbs. On page 1-100 #17 says to torque the nut 125 ft lbs. Most that I know incld me prefer to only take it to 75 ft lbs max. Over torqueing the nut is a sure way to pull the threads, and possibly lose a wheel assy

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thumbnail_IMG_7391.jpg thumbnail_IMG_7386.jpg Finished installing new parts in 1931 Steering Gearbox. When making adjustment the Les Andrews Red Book stated 3/4" wrench to adjust Eccentric adjusting sleeve nut. I found it to be 7/8". 2-17 page in Red Book

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Finished installing new parts in 1931 Steering Gearbox. When making adjustment the Les Andrews Red Book stated 3/4" wrench to adjust Eccentric adjusting sleeve nut. I found it to be 7/8". 2-17 page in Red Book

My Book says 7/8.. I have the 5th revision 2002…

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