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  • Important Errors contained in the Les Andrews Books

    We have compiled a list of published errors that are in the Les Andrews texts. If you own or reference any of these books it would be prudent to make the appropriate corrections on the pages listed. For anyone that finds additional errors or the same errors listed here on other pages feel free to post your findings on this thread.

    Our corrections are approx values and remember the Model A was built without using Torque wrenches. Most of the things we have listed here can be done by using common sense and feel.

    This is a link to the original thread for this project where the correct procedures were discussed.
    https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...-andrews-books

    You may also refer to our Specifications page link where these corrections are also revised.
    https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...-w-corrections


    Red Book Volume 1 errors & corrections:

    Engine Oil Pan Bolts Torque

    page 1-146 & 1-226
    error:: 20 ft. lbs

    correction:: approx 8 ft. lbs ( read the above threads for more info)

    Manifold to Engine Block Nuts Torque

    page 1-134 table 1-5
    error 45 ft. lbs

    correction:: approx 25 ft. lbs

    Valve Chamber Bolts Torque (valve cover)

    page 1-134 table # 1-5

    error:: 20 ft. lbs

    correction:: approx 8 ft. lbs ( should be treated the same as the oil pan)

    Timing (setting the rotor position)

    page 2-18 #10
    error:: The book states to set the rotor position opposite #1 contact.

    correction:: Let's mention the timing section when the book says the rotor should point opposite the number one contact it means facing it. >1 the Arrow is opposite the number 1 not this way <1. If you time the engine with the rotor opposite number 1 (<1) your timing will be 180 degrees off.
    note The picture does show the rotor in the correct position.


    Brake Rods

    page 1-45
    error:: The book states to adjust all 4 brake rods to 51-7/16" to 51-1/2" in length from eye to eye centers.

    correction:: Service Bulletins page 202 says to adjust the brake rods by setting all the cross shaft and pedal adjustments first. then adjust the rods by removing the slack from each actuating lever until the clevis holes line up.

    Emergency Brake Springs

    page 1-43
    error:: Diagram in the red book shows only one emergency brake band spring

    correction:: There are actually two springs


    Spindle Locking Pin Nut

    page 1-34 #1 AND page 1-35 #9 and page 1-211 #1 & #2
    error:: The book states the wrench/ socket size is 9/16th

    correction:: The correct wrench size / socket to remove the spindle locking pin nut is 11/16th

    Brake Actuating Arm Nut

    page 1-35 #2 and page 1-211
    error:: The book states the wrench/ socket size is 9/16th

    correction:: The correct wrench size / socket to remove the brake actuating arm nut is 11/16th

    VINTAGE FORD FORUM

    Rear Motor Mount Rubber Pads

    page 1-221
    error::Trimming the motor mount rubber.

    correction:: It is no longer needed.


    Rear backing plate nuts

    page 1-40, para 3.
    error: The 4 castle nuts inside the grease baffle requires a 9/16 socket

    correction: It requires a 5/8 socket, not 9/16.


    Capacities

    page 1 Specification's Card
    error:: Transmission 1-1/2 pints
    correction:: Transmissionn 1 pint (service bulletins pg 375)

    error:: Differential 2-1/4 pints
    correction:: Differential 1-1/2 pints (service bulletins pg 375)

    King Pins

    page 1-209
    error:: The book does not mention about there being a Right and a Left KIng Pin when doing the services

    correction:: Take note that there is a R & L king pin



    Carburetor Main and Cap jet measurements

    Page 1-61 Assembling Carburetor
    Error: Picture shows both jet tips equal height.

    Correction: Main jet is set .4375 or 7/16 measured from tip to machined surface. Cap jet is set .375 or 3/8 measured from tip to machined surface.



    Front Spindle Nut

    Page 1-361 Wheel Bearings Castle Nut
    Error: Lists the spindle nut size as 7/8-14 and the wrench size needed as 1-1/4"

    Correction: The spindle nut is 3/4-16 and the wrench size should be 1-1/8"


    Leaf Spring

    Page 1-278 Section 2
    Error: Recommends to use a lock washer on the leaf spring center (tie) bolt

    Correction: A lock washer can break causing the spring pack to loosen


    Stewart Warner Horn

    Page 1-195 step #6
    Error: Remove the ratchet nut

    Correction: The ratchet nut has a left handed thread


    Front spring Perch Nut

    Page 1-7 step #22
    Error: Use a 3/4" socket on the perch nut

    Correction: It takes a 15/16" socket


    Throw Out Bearing

    Page 1-341 Paragraph 17
    Error: No mention of the throw out bearing being a pressed fit

    Correction: Throw-out bearing should be a press fit. Press fit can be done in a bench-top vise using the old throw-out bearing on the face of the new throw-out bearing. Widest O.D. of throw-out bearing should face engine


    Blue Book (trouble shooting & diagnostics) Errors & Corrections:


    Brakes

    page 4-62 2nd paragraph in right-hand column, second sentence
    error:: "In the rear wheel brakes, ....

    correction:: Should be front


    Green Book Vol- II Errors and corrections:

    page 3-11 step #27---- See this thread

    Step 27 is wrong. The windlace is not tacked to the bottom edge of the side roof rails (aka "Door Header")

    Windlace A-80362 (black) and A-73468 (brown) were notched to fit around the five wood screws of the windlace-retainer-strip (aka "windlace wood strip"). The retainer was installed loose. The windlace tail was slid in between the retainers and AA-83931/32 side roof rails. The retainers were then tightened.

    There was no "metal header cover plate" for an 82-A. The 82-B had a metal windlace retainer held in place with six oval head wood screws.

    FYI - page heading should be for the 82-A closed cab since a "1928/1929 Pickup" could have an 82-A closed cab or 76-A open cab.
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    3 ~ Tudor's
    Henry Ford said
    "It's all nuts and bolts"


    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

  • #2
    Thanks Mitch! I rely on those books and have wondered about some of those points because they conflict with other pubs. Noticing the date you posted those corrections makes me realize I should have joined the forum years ago!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by John Brissette View Post
      Thanks Mitch! I rely on those books and have wondered about some of those points because they conflict with other pubs. Noticing the date you posted those corrections makes me realize I should have joined the forum years ago!
      John, better late than never. Glad you finally made it
      3 ~ Tudor's
      Henry Ford said
      "It's all nuts and bolts"


      Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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      • #4
        Transmission Throw-out Bearing Should be a Press Fit:

        Mitch-I have made this mistake once and caught this mistake made in previous "ground-up restoration" Model A that I bought. Mistake can occur if one is following Les's Red Book. It makes no mention of a "press-fit" for a throw-out bearing. I suggest that paragraph 17 on page 1-341 have an added, concluding sentence: "Throw-out bearing should be a press fit." Perhaps, a second following sentence could be added: "Press fit can be done in a bench-top vise using the old throw-out bearing on the face of the new throw-out bearing." And, another following sentence: "Widest O.D. of throw-out bearing should face engine."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BudP View Post
          Transmission Throw-out Bearing Should be a Press Fit:

          Mitch-I have made this mistake once and caught this mistake made in previous "ground-up restoration" Model A that I bought. Mistake can occur if one is following Les's Red Book. It makes no mention of a "press-fit" for a throw-out bearing. I suggest that paragraph 17 on page 1-341 have an added, concluding sentence: "Throw-out bearing should be a press fit." Perhaps, a second following sentence could be added: "Press fit can be done in a bench-top vise using the old throw-out bearing on the face of the new throw-out bearing." And, another following sentence: "Widest O.D. of throw-out bearing should face engine."
          Bud Thank-you for the info, and including a page id. I will add that to our list
          3 ~ Tudor's
          Henry Ford said
          "It's all nuts and bolts"


          Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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