Building a 1930 pickup from parts.

[George Miller]

image_4712.jpg 1931 Model A cab, box 003.JPG

[DaWizard]

Great start George, but I think I would have called it "Building a '30 pickup from rust".

Can't wait to see the progress through pictures.

[George Miller]

My plan is to show some most every day. But you know how plans go.

[George Miller]

Started fitting parts. Have already straightened the frame.

New front panel in box. Wood in cab, and patch panel on door. I like to put it together before any paint work.



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[BNCHIEF]

George you are the man, WOW

[pAAt]

Gonna be a Hot Rod George ?

[George Miller]

I did not make this clear. It is already done. It is my pickup the blue one in the picture with my name. Mitch said one time maybe we could start a build thread on the truck.
I lost some of the pictures when my computer crashed one time.

[George Miller]

No it has the 4 cylinder Model A engine. It is not completely stock. Stipe cam, 7-1 Brumfield head, made my own down draft intake with a holley 94 carb.

[pAAt]

Back to what Chief said WOW +

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Model As & '32s, with a shortened bed, look SO SPIFFY!

[BNCHIEF]

I still say wow George I have always admired that picture of your truck. I was real impressed with how fast you got things done there George.

[Mitch]

George your truck is magnificent, and from what you started with is nothing short of amazing. Did you find your lost build pics? Thanks for sharing all your projects on this board, your home made motors and cylinder heads are mind boggling.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Doesn't take MUCH to BOGGLE my "MIND"--LOL

[George Miller]

no but I will post the ones I find

[BNCHIEF]

George could do an engine seminar now wouldn't that be fun and educational.

[George Miller]

You know I have in the past. The problem I have is there is always some one there that knows better than I and confuses the class. Most of the time they never built a engine. But with the right people it would be fun.

[BNCHIEF]

Building engines the George Miller way a presentation of my methods. I do know what you mean if you have questions write them down and I will address the ones that pertain to my presentation. That would be my take as for me I would be all ears. I have learned everything I know from older guys who have been around a long time and sadly so many of them are gone but their memory is never forgotten in my mind. Have a great day George.

[Mitch]

Are we talking an online seminar or an in person?

[BNCHIEF]

I was talking in person never thought about an online seminar, but in sections maybe like first getting a good block.

[Mitch]

You can do an engine seminar at Brent’s

[George Miller]

Mitch if we did one at Brent's I would not be able to do the machine work. But we could put one together. But I will say when it comes to engines i am very fussy.

[George Miller]

I would be up to do one here. Now all my equipment is old, plus me. The boring bar is home made, but does a very good job. The boring bar is from my Dads garage, but still does top shelf work. The problem with it is if the ones before you located off the worn part of the bore you are going to bore it off again. Or if some one decked it not square with the bore. You cylinder are going to bored not square with the crank shaft. Lots of places located off the worn part of the bore back in the day so they would not have to bore so much, bad idea. We had locater plates we could bolt to the block to correct this. But not for a model A. Many people that did engines did not under stand all this

A engine needs to be right on, not just close. Close is never good enough for a engine.

[George Miller]

Pickup truck in primer 005.JPGPickup truck in primer 004.JPG Yes it had a flat head V8 to start with, but no more

[George Miller]

1930 Pickup as of 4-23-13 003.JPG1930 Pickup as of 4-23-13 006.JPGHad to post this picture of my Grandson. I think I need more rest.

[Mitch]

Good looking boy
He resembles you

[Mitch]

We’re you just test fittting with the cab painted?

[George Miller]

Yes I also use it to give the cab a ride from inside to out side. I do all my painting out side in early AM to keep the dust out of the paint and keep the paint out of my shop.

[George Miller]

pickup and box 005.JPGPickup box done 6-13-13 001.JPGPickup box done 6-13-13 004.JPGThis is all I can find.

[Mitch]

It was fun while it lasted. Thanks for sharing it

[DaWizard]

Whew, nicely done George, very nice.

[George Miller]

thanks it is fun to bring them back from the dead.

[Beauford]

Wowza!!!

[George Miller]

cab after finish paint 005.JPGcab after finish paint 003.JPG couple more pictures

[George Miller]

When the painting is done the cab comes off and the frame gets done. I use my car lift to remove the cab.

[BNCHIEF]

George that looks like a metallic blue, it is not an A color is it?

[George Miller]

No it is not an A color. Same color as my 99 silverado. The fenders are a darker blue.

[Ed H]

Started fitting parts. Have already straightened the frame.

New front panel in box. Wood in cab, and patch panel on door. I like to put it together before any paint work.



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How do you check the frame for being straight/square?
Can anyone do this or is equipment needed.

[DaWizard]

Actually, that is somewhat easily done. Door alignment/fit is an indication of frame sag. The rear hood alignment, if it fits straight against the radiator shell, but has an increasing top to bottom cowl gap that is also an indication of frame sag. Usual frame sag is at or around the rear motor mount of just behind the mount.

This frame sag can be easily fixed if you have an abandoned stretch of railroad track, 2 lengths of chain, and a bottle jack. Drive the car onto the tracks, strap the front and rear frame to the rail, and use the bottle jack at and around the sag area to straighten the sag. Or, you can take the car to your local frame repair shop and let them do it.

[Mitch]

and make sure no trains are comming

[BNCHIEF]

Did you learn this watching buster keaton movies?

[George Miller]

How do you check the frame for being straight/square?
Can anyone do this or is equipment needed.

Each have there own way, but I made brackets that hook to the top of the frame. Then they hang down below the frame. Then you can put a string from one to the other. then I made a gauge you can put on top of the frame move it all the way down the string. Now you can straighten the frame with the body on.

[George Miller]

11-23-12 pickup box and frame 009.JPGpickup cab and box 006.JPGpickup cab and box 004.JPG some more pictures as it was built pickup cab and box 002.JPGpickup cab and box 005.JPG

[Mitch]

Diggin through your albums today George.. lol

[George Miller]

I,m still looking, did not know I had so many, raining to day so a good day to look.

[George Miller]

11-23-12 pickup box and frame 012.JPG here are some more pictures

[George Miller]

a few more pictures. It does have a flathead V8 in the picture, but now has a Model A engine with a Stipe cam, Brumfield 7-1 head, home built drown draft intake with 2 barrel carb. Strong engine

[pAAt]

George, what speed will this truck cruse at down the road ? Do you have any pictures of your hydraulics and brake set up ? Top of the morning to you and sorry for opening this can of worms up again !

[Mitch]

Here ya go pAAt just buy this beautiful truck

https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...p-truck-13-000

[George Miller]

George, what speed will this truck cruse at down the road ? Do you have any pictures of your hydraulics and brake set up ? Top of the morning to you and sorry for opening this can of worms up again !

I drive the truck 50 most of the time. No pictures of the brakes. I think they are about 40 ford brakes. The master cylinder is more modern.