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  • #26
    You mentioned above that this set-up requires H-13 mounting. The Vintique reflectors I have I believe are for H-4 bulbs. Is that a problem?
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    • #27
      Well, I looked at both headlights and it appears that they are the same, or close enough that it shouldn't matter. The H-4 bulb has what appears to be a tin style mounting, while the H-13 style has the mounting like I am using.

      I will need to call them tomorrow and confirm the type, but I believe it is the replacement 8th Gen 9004 bulb. I know it was an 8th gen headlight conversion.

      Stand by until tomorrow and I will confirm what I purchased. My login doesn't work so I can check tonight......please stand by.

      Just looking back at the link in the first post, it is the 9004 replacement bulb, not the H-13 mounting.
      Whenever I pass someone who's texting and driving, I throw my beer at their window.

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      • CarlG
        CarlG commented
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        OK, one more question: Do I buy the set with the decoder, or without the decoder?

    • #28
      Ok, UPDATE!!

      Carl, you do NOT need the decoder, that is for the modern computerized cars!

      Now, to solidify the unit needed, it is the 9007 replacement, and here is the link to that bulb.

      http://www.jdmastar.com/product/314/...-Set-of-2.html

      This is all that is needed and if you have the standard 3 prong halogen light socket, it plugs right into that.
      Whenever I pass someone who's texting and driving, I throw my beer at their window.

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      • #29
        Like Lt. Columbo says: Just one more question— Is there any problem with cooling since the fan is enclosed in the air tight bucket?
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        • #30
          Actually, there are no fans, and IF you have a reducer fail like I did, it was replaced the next day. These guys are great to deal with.

          Carl, do you have ShoeGoo up there? If not, I recommend getting some from the lower 48. It is great stuff for almost any repair, it is even waterproof. I use that instead of a silicone type sealer to attach things. It is what I use to attach the reducer to the inside wall of the headlight bucket, and it acts as a heat sink and vibration dampener for the reducer.
          Whenever I pass someone who's texting and driving, I throw my beer at their window.

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          • #31
            Not for everybody, I used one of the 12V accessories that plug into a 2" receiver and use the flat four trailer plug. FYI, the reproduction early fifties Ford truck lights bolt right to the Model A truck brackets. When the lights are off, the third light shows the Ford script logo.
            Last edited by Denis4x4; 10-31-2018, 10:38 AM.

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            • DaWizard
              DaWizard commented
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              X10 I think that anything that gives better visibility to any direction on a Model A is a good thing!!

              Can't get enough bright lighting!

          • #32
            Looks like this is going to be one of my winter projects this winter.
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            • #33
              Placed my order today. Procrastination doesn't exactly work though, price went up since I first looked at them.
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              • #34
                Ok, the posted pictures are the items that come with the actual lights and all parts are needed. There is a separate "decoder" that is needed for the new generation of computer controlled cars to fool the computer, or some such, but the Model A isn't in need of those.

                And yes, looks like the price has increased by $40.00!

                Not my fault.

                What I would do is call them and see if the new price reflects the need for the "decoder" and explain that for this application it is not needed and maybe they will send you the set without that part for a better price.
                Whenever I pass someone who's texting and driving, I throw my beer at their window.

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                • #35
                  Another LED Headlight Option for under 7.00 each

                  Original thread

                  I just installed LED headlight bulbs. They plug right in to the original socket. Quick and easy. I want them for day time driving so the others on the road will see me. They work great for that with absolutely no draw on the ammeter. Focusing them is another issue. Probably not going to happen. But if I am caught out at night, which is not likely, it only takes a minute to swap the original bulbs back in and you can be on your way.

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                  • H. L. Chauvin
                    H. L. Chauvin commented
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                    Hi WMWS,

                    Zero (0) responses for over (24) hours .... the Ice is hereby broken .... more responses from kind VFF gentlemen usually will come later. LOL

                    In your most intelligent and compassionate statement, "I want them for day time driving so the others on the road will see me."

                    I think that with your Daylight Driving Lights Report, you are more than an extremely intelligent Model A owner because of not only caring about your family's Life Safety, but also caring about sharing Life Safety suggestions with all of us VFF Forum members.

                    If one looks at Statistics of lives saved since auto manufacturers' incorporated Daylight Running Lights, (DRL), not many lives were reported by U.S. Safety Government Officials as saved.

                    However, accidents and deaths went up drastically during this period of added (DRL) with drivers texting, drivers on cell phones, and with our created Great Society Thugs who now have learned to gain access to illegal, multiple EBT cards to sell in order to acquire drugs.

                    In 2016, there were 46 deaths per "day" where people died from overdoses of opioids alone ...... these sad neglected and created Thug Citizens drive.

                    I drive my Model A on back roads with dim lights "On" ..... for some unknown reason, looks like a drugged and an un-drugged brain appears to have more respect for a Model A with daytime headlights "ON" ..... they wait for me to pass by rather tan pull out in front when my headlights are not on.

                    Hope Mr. WMWS's Life Safety Report can help Model A drivers get better recognized and respected with their Model As driving on our U.S. 2018 highways.

                  • pAAt
                    pAAt commented
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                    I like your style H.L., and also WMWS post, it's just the math doesn't add up ? Pat can't sleep ..............

                  • dmdeaton
                    dmdeaton commented
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                    I drive the highways and backroads a lot. I am always somewhere out of my city and state in customers plants. I am anal about driving with headlights and taillights on at all times. The other morning it was foggy and half the cars on the road are driving with no lights. Statistics aside, anything that makes you more visible is good. My only problem is without the headlight warning alarm, I tend to leave my Model A lights on after I park. I think I will tack up a post it note! I just installed the LED pack in my fordor. Havent fired them up yet, so cannot report on focus.

                  • Mitch
                    Mitch commented
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                    Thanks for the report on the LED's. Did Wiz go over the focusing issue on his LED headlight thread? Maybe he can chime in here on this thread and shed some light

                  • DaWizard
                    DaWizard commented
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                    I would like to chime in on the 2 pin plug in LED bulbs and the focusing, but I have no experience with these and because they are a forward pointing bulb I doubt that focusing will be possible.

                    If there were pictures posted of the particular bulbs used it would help confirm my instincts.

                  • wensum
                    wensum commented
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                    The 12 volt halogen bulbs that come with the Vintique headlights are powerful enough for me but they certainly draw more current and I run an alternator as well

                  • WMWS
                    WMWS commented
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                    Wiz. Here is a picture of the LED bulb. It has 6 LEDs in the front and 6 on each of the 4 sides. As you say I'm not sure if it can be focused. I have't played around with trying that yet. As it is I could probably drive 35 MPH and see well enough down the road. What I like is no power draw for day time running.

                  • CarlG
                    CarlG commented
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                    I am in the process of converting my Vintique quartz halogen lights to LEDs, using the instructions posted here by Wiz. My main purpose is to get less current flow since I always run with lights on. Besides it being State law on the high ways it just makes sense to be more visible to others. As to leaving my lights on when stopped, I have added a buzzer that reminds me when the lights are on and the ignition is off.

                    The instructions by Wiz are not as challenging as they might seem. If you already have the Vintique reflectors, it’s pretty much plug and play. I would have had everything complete by now if life hadn’t interfered this past week.

                  • WMWS
                    WMWS commented
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                    Forgot the picture.

                  • Mitch
                    Mitch commented
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                    Just a quick question
                    So the LED's that Wiz used are different than these and adjustable?

                  • DaWizard
                    DaWizard commented
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                    Ok, the bulbs shown may give you some focus adjustability, I haven't played with this to say definitely. I would question the ability to give you a high and low pattern decernability. It looks to me that unless the outer ring of LEDs light separately, they will give you the same light in high and low beam. I would be interested to see just how those light up.

                    The lights I have been using have a definite separate high and low lighting that when properly set will give you light reflected through the upper area of the lens and shine down before the car in a low beam, and when fully lit up reflects through the entire lens giving you high beam.

                  • Mark Maron
                    Mark Maron commented
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                    Did I miss a post on where to get them???

                  • Michael M
                    Michael M commented
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                    I, too, would like to see an item # and vendor name for these plug and play LED bulbs. Can you provide?

                  • WMWS
                    WMWS commented
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                    I can't figure out how to send you to the web site but if you go to LEDlight.com and the product code 78989. Those are the bulbs I am using.

                  • H. L. Chauvin
                    H. L. Chauvin commented
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                    Here is from LEDLight.com.

                    Click on: More Info (below).

                    https://www.ledlight.com/images/78989t.jpgLED Headlight 6 Volt BA15D Base 30 SMD 5730 Dual Filament

                    Product Code: 78989

                    $6.25 - $6.79
                    More Info

                  • WMWS
                    WMWS commented
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                    Thanks HL for posting that. I have not driven on the road with them yet and have not spent much time trying to focus them as it is quite cold out here at night.

                  • H. L. Chauvin
                    H. L. Chauvin commented
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                    If driving during the day, with LED lights "ON", while using an original Model A generator, it appears the generator would last longer between rebuilds than if original Model A bulbs were used when driving during the day.

                    No doubt generator wear would depend on several variables such as numbers of miles driven per year with LED lights ON, numbers of possible miles driven per year with original light bulbs ON at night, individual generator third brush settings, types of tail lights/brake lights/signal lights, individual different ammeter readings, and how often was the generator lubricated, just to name a few.

                • #36
                  Question on LED lights and 6v versus 12v systems. I see that Nurex has a 6v Extreme High Output Alternator (60 amp). Wouldn't this pull enough power for any of the LED lights, much less halogen lights, out on the market? I'm no electrical guru so any advice would be much appreciated.

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                  • Mitch
                    Mitch commented
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                    LED lights draw less than the stock incandescent bulbs

                  • DaWizard
                    DaWizard commented
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                    saxman, to answer your question, a 60 amp alternator would power all you can load onto it on a Model A. Now, the stock A wiring won't take that much draw without worry, but it will take quite a bit.

                    The reason for going to LED, no matter the voltage, is to drop down the amount of current used versus the current drawn by incandescent, and to get the brighter white light of the LED as opposed to the dull yellow light of the incandescent.

                    If you just drive down the road at night, you can readily see the differences in the modern car with LED and a modern car without them.

                    It is always better to be seen and not hit.

                • #37
                  All makes sense to me. So would a 60 amp alternator push halogens as well? I've never driven with LED's as headlights, so don't know which is better between the two. All I know is that most LED set-ups seem to require a 12v system. That is until I learned of these "Logo Lites LED Headlight Bulb". They have both a 6v and 12v version. Do they say 12v requirement only because of the lower amperage in the standard 6v alternators?

                  Thanks,
                  Mike

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                  • DaWizard
                    DaWizard commented
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                    With a 60amp alternator you can run any light you want, and perhaps all of them that you want. I have not tested these 6v Logo Lights so I can't say the difference in brilliance. I do know that they seem to work according to those who have tested them.

                  • CarlG
                    CarlG commented
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                    I have not tested the LogoLites either, but in reading their literature, it's the same bulb for 6 or 12 volts, positive or negative ground.

                    FWIW: I just installed the LED's that Wiz wrote about. Haven't driven them in the dark yet, but they work great, an the install was relatively painless. I already had the Halogen reflectors and wiring, which made it "plug & play" for me.

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