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    LED Tail lights:

    Original Thread:
    https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...864-led-lights



    Since most of you know I have LED headlights, and I thought I posted that the rear were LED also, I find that some info was missing. So here it continues.

    The tail lights are the regular tail and stop TeaCup tail light replacement LEDs cut down to fit the Drum tail light, so I at least kept it original to my mid'28 with the Drum buckets.

    As I posted in the Kelsey Hayes thread the spare tire/wheel is kinda special. Within the club membership, some have done various attempts to make a third brake light, and seriously, some are lacking. So, what I did was go searching for a light and found at the truck parts store a 4" LED light that not only can be used as a tail light, it can be a stop light as well as a white backup light. I have done a search on the web for the specific part number but I fail to find the exact light, but this is as close as I can find. http://www.raneystruckparts.com/4-ro...e-combo-light/

    So, this is what the ass of my car looks like. Now, if you have a trunk, good luck, not much is going to be as bright as this is. I have also found some smaller 1½" red clearance lights that could be cut into the small hub caps to be used as third stop lights.

    I think it is all about being different and distinctive, and every member of the club that has followed behind me says "damn, that's bright", which is what I want, always better to be seen and not hit.


    Tail Lights 1.jpgStop lights.jpgBackup 2.jpg
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  • #2
    Wow nice job!
    It looks like a train coming at you.. That is a nice light with the dual function red or white illumination
    2 1930 Tudors

    Henry Ford said
    "It's all nuts and bolts"


    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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    • #3
      That is really good. I presume the car is converted to 12 volt.
      Bill
      http://www.brauchauto.com/
      Eastern Connecticut

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      • DaWizard
        DaWizard commented
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        Oh sorry, Yes the car is now 12v Neg chassis.

    • #4
      Berts offers an 6V LED bar style 3rd brake light to mount in the rear window. I'm adding a second tail light and will include the LED bar in my plans. After the car went thru a frame off restoration in 95, the owner did very little to finish it beyond getting it running. I have to install all the lights, horn and dash lights, including the wiring to get there.

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      • DaWizard
        DaWizard commented
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        Hey, good idea, There are also the 6v Pos chassis LEDs available through some of the vendors that fit really well in the teacup tail lights. Alas, there is nothing made to fit the drum taillight, but if you are careful, the teacup light can be made to fit with minimal modifications to the drum taillight. You will need to modify the internals of the drum to use that light. You will also need to modify the LED itself to get the outer dimension to fit into the drum.

      • Mitch
        Mitch commented
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        No modifications needed to fit the drum tail light

        https://www.brattons.com/right-side-...ail-light.html

      • DaWizard
        DaWizard commented
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        Thanks Mitch, great find. I didn't know those were available. I do hope they are 6v.

    • #5
      Wow, looks brighter than my head lights.

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      • #6
        I might add that the headlights are also LED and you can see the brilliance in the reflection of the lights on the garage door.
        "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
        We grow old because we stop playing ...
        NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

        I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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        • Mitch
          Mitch commented
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          Looks like your garage door needs painting

      • #7
        Originally posted by DaWizard View Post
        I might add that the headlights are also LED and you can see the brilliance in the reflection of the lights on the garage door.
        I didn't know LED headlamps were available, or are they only available in 12 volt negative ground?

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        • #8
          Sorry Tom, but for now only 12v neg chassis.
          "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
          We grow old because we stop playing ...
          NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

          I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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          • #9
            Wiz what LED headllamps are you using? Can you put up a link here to them
            Thanks
            2 1930 Tudors

            Henry Ford said
            "It's all nuts and bolts"


            Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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            • #10
              Sure, but I thought I already had a thread about them...

              http://www.jdmastar.com/product/313/...-Set-of-2.html

              And if they are still including it in the box, you can get a 20% rebate by simply posting the lights on Facebook and sending them the link to it, which I did and they did!!
              "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
              We grow old because we stop playing ...
              NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

              I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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              • #11
                does anyone have suggestions about 6V positive ground LED head lights for either the stock bulbs or the after market halogen 3 spade setup ?

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                • #12
                  Hey jmottershaw, WELCOME to the VFF!!

                  As of now I do not believe there is any LED headlights that are 6v. Now, that is not to say someone offshore has not made something that I am not aware of, only that I have not seen anything of late.
                  "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                  We grow old because we stop playing ...
                  NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                  I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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                  • machineman64
                    machineman64 commented
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                    I believe there are direct replacement led bulbs available from this source:
                    lbcarco@lbcarco.com I am wondering if any one has tried these and how
                    satisfied they are. I believe the number of the bulb needed is ba15d they
                    are either 6v or 12v pos or neg grnd.

                    John

                • #13
                  Just looked at the site. It does "look" like it has the bulbs to go LED at either voltage. Kinda hard to tell without pictures, so I would see if the hard copy catalog will be better.
                  "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                  We grow old because we stop playing ...
                  NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                  I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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                  • #14
                    Model A LED Headlights

                    Original thread


                    Ok, first off I would like to explain that you will need to purchase the reflectors with the mounting for the H-13, 3 ear mount and this LED light set.
                    http://www.jdmastar.com/product/318/...-Set-of-2.html

                    Now, in the following pictures I will make a comment under each one to try to explain what is needed and what was done.

                    Please read the comments on the pictures, and I will answer all questions. There will need to be a few fitments done to align the bulb and focus correctly.

                    Hmm,, just noticed something on the 11th picture. In this picture I am trying to show the indexing button that is used to set the alignment and focus of the bulb. Since I can't read the full text I put on the picture I will state here that there will need to be multiple fitment of the bulb in the reflector because the original bulb mounting might be different on your reflectors from the ones on my reflectors. There will need to be another hole drilled in the mounting to set that ball in the correct position to help hold the bulb in correct orientation and alignment to get the optimum focus.
                    "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                    We grow old because we stop playing ...
                    NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                    I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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                    • #15
                      Ok, first off I would like to explain that you will need to purchase the reflectors with the mounting for the Halogen bulb, the 3 ear mount and this LED light set.
                      http://www.jdmastar.com/product/318/...-Set-of-2.html

                      Now, in the following pictures I will make a comment under each one to try to explain what is needed and what was done.

                      Please read the comments on the pictures, and I will answer all questions. There will need to be a few fitments done to align the bulb and focus correctly.

                      Hmm,, just noticed something on the 11th picture. In this picture I am trying to show the indexing button that is used to set the alignment and focus of the bulb. Since I can't read the full text I put on the picture I will state here that there will need to be multiple fitment of the bulb in the reflector because the original bulb mounting might be different on your reflectors from the ones on my reflectors. There will need to be another hole drilled in the mounting to set that ball in the correct position to help hold the bulb in correct orientation and alignment to get the optimum focus.
                      "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                      We grow old because we stop playing ...
                      NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                      I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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                      • JDupuis
                        JDupuis commented
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                        Thanks Wiz.

                      • jordanka16
                        jordanka16 commented
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                        Good info Wiz, I bought some LEDs for the rear, and this is probably the next step, I'm paranoid about being seen.

                      • DaWizard
                        DaWizard commented
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                        While this does require 12v neg chassis, as I have posted in the past, these are a ONE MILE set of lights. Meaning, on high beam, I can see illumination for One Mile. I know this because where I live the city is divided into 1 mile grids for major streets and half mile for minor streets and on the low beam I can see the reflection on the parking restriction signs to the half mile street, and on high I can see the reflection of the same signs to the next major street.

                        This is serious illumination through the stock Model A lenses. NOT the early fluted lenses as all they do is blast the light out without the focus of the later lenses.

                      • Bob C
                        Bob C commented
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                        When you get a chance show us a picture of what the beam looks like from 25 feet from a wall or garage door.

                      • DaWizard
                        DaWizard commented
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                        Ok, you asked for it, I deliver.

                        The lighter ones were at dusk, the darker ones were taken just a few minutes ago.

                        You should be able to tell high from low beams
                        .

                      • Bobm90
                        Bobm90 commented
                        Editing a comment
                        Great job Wiz, thanks for the info.

                      • CarlG
                        CarlG commented
                        Editing a comment
                        Thanks Wiz.
                        One question: in your pictures it appears that you are also using your headlights for parking lamps, or is that just a reflection of the headlight bulbs?

                      • dmdeaton
                        dmdeaton commented
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                        I like this setup. I have a set of the Vintiques reflectors with the turn signal sockets in the box waiting for something like this. I think I may order a set and give it a try.
                        So the plastic ring that you drilled the orientation hole into comes with the lights, correct? This assembly is made to retrofit the Halogens?

                      • GRutter
                        GRutter commented
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                        Thank You
                        A couple of questions.
                        What reflectors are you using / where purchased ?
                        You mention a "reducer" The website asks about a "decoder". Are they the same?
                        Thank You
                        George

                      • DaWizard
                        DaWizard commented
                        Editing a comment
                        George, I removed the original headlights complete and installed a set purchased from CW Moss that were already set up for Halogen and parking lights. Now, these happened to be a Vintiques item, but I am tickled pink with the fit and finish. Their new stainless headlights are great.

                        Yes, the reducer is the decoder.

                        Just an FYI, I also removed the "stock" style plugs and wiring that came with the headlights and installed 6 conductor Amphanol connectors so I didn't need to worry about connections, and had enough connections to do other light things in the future. The stock 3 connector unit can be used, but I can not impress upon you the need for a very good ground on the housing.

                      • CarlG
                        CarlG commented
                        Editing a comment
                        You mentioned above that this set-up requires H-13 mounting. The Vintique reflectors I have I believe are for H-4 bulbs. Is that a problem?

                      • DaWizard
                        DaWizard commented
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                        Well, I looked at both headlights and it appears that they are the same, or close enough that it shouldn't matter. The H-4 bulb has what appears to be a tin style mounting, while the H-13 style has the mounting like I am using.

                        I will need to call them tomorrow and confirm the type, but I believe it is the replacement 8th Gen 9004 bulb. I know it was an 8th gen headlight conversion.

                        Stand by until tomorrow and I will confirm what I purchased. My login doesn't work so I can check tonight......please stand by.

                        Just looking back at the link in the first post, it is the 9004 replacement bulb, not the H-13 mounting.

                      • DaWizard
                        DaWizard commented
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                        Ok, UPDATE!!

                        Carl, you do NOT need the decoder, that is for the modern computerized cars!

                        Now, to solidify the unit needed, it is the 9007 replacement, and here is the link to that bulb.

                        http://www.jdmastar.com/product/314/...-Set-of-2.html

                        This is all that is needed and if you have the standard 3 prong halogen light socket, it plugs right into that.

                      • CarlG
                        CarlG commented
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                        Like Lt. Columbo says: Just one more question— Is there any problem with cooling since the fan is enclosed in the air tight bucket?

                      • DaWizard
                        DaWizard commented
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                        Actually, there are no fans, and IF you have a reducer fail like I did, it was replaced the next day. These guys are great to deal with.

                    • #16
                      Thanks Wiz.

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                      • #17
                        Good info Wiz, I bought some LEDs for the rear, and this is probably the next step, I'm paranoid about being seen.

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                        • #18
                          While this does require 12v neg chassis, as I have posted in the past, these are a ONE MILE set of lights. Meaning, on high beam, I can see illumination for One Mile. I know this because where I live the city is divided into 1 mile grids for major streets and half mile for minor streets and on the low beam I can see the reflection on the parking restriction signs to the half mile street, and on high I can see the reflection of the same signs to the next major street.

                          This is serious illumination through the stock Model A lenses. NOT the early fluted lenses as all they do is blast the light out without the focus of the later lenses.
                          "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                          We grow old because we stop playing ...
                          NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                          I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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                          • #19
                            When you get a chance show us a picture of what the beam looks like from 25 feet from a wall or garage door.

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                            • DaWizard
                              DaWizard commented
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                              I'll take a few shots tonight.

                          • #20
                            Ok, you asked for it, I deliver.

                            The lighter ones were at dusk, the darker ones were taken just a few minutes ago.

                            You should be able to tell high from low beams
                            .
                            "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                            We grow old because we stop playing ...
                            NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                            I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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                            • Mitch
                              Mitch commented
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                              Watch out that you don't burn a hole in the garage door with those intense lights.
                              Nice thread BTW

                          • #21
                            Great job Wiz, thanks for the info.

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                            • #22
                              Thanks Wiz.
                              One question: in your pictures it appears that you are also using your headlights for parking lamps, or is that just a reflection of the headlight bulbs?
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                              • DaWizard
                                DaWizard commented
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                                Those are the turn signal LEDs. I had to have something that was bright enough to be seen when the headlights were turned on, and I tried to take a picture of them working but it caused the phone to go cross eyed.

                            • #23
                              I like this setup. I have a set of the Vintiques reflectors with the turn signal sockets in the box waiting for something like this. I think I may order a set and give it a try.
                              So the plastic ring that you drilled the orientation hole into comes with the lights, correct? This assembly is made to retrofit the Halogens?

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                              • DaWizard
                                DaWizard commented
                                Editing a comment
                                Yes, all you will need to do relocate that hole, as the I'm not sure if the orientation of the mounting in the reflector you have.

                                You will find that it might need to be back just a tad to get the focus correct, but that was barely needed on mine.

                            • #24
                              Thank You
                              A couple of questions.
                              What reflectors are you using / where purchased ?
                              You mention a "reducer" The website asks about a "decoder". Are they the same?
                              Thank You
                              George

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                              • #25
                                George, I removed the original headlights complete and installed a set purchased from CW Moss that were already set up for Halogen and parking lights. Now, these happened to be a Vintiques item, but I am tickled pink with the fit and finish. Their new stainless headlights are great.

                                Yes, the reducer is the decoder.

                                Just an FYI, I also removed the "stock" style plugs and wiring that came with the headlights and installed 6 conductor Amphanol connectors so I didn't need to worry about connections, and had enough connections to do other light things in the future. The stock 3 connector unit can be used, but I can not impress upon you the need for a very good ground on the housing.
                                "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                                We grow old because we stop playing ...
                                NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                                I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

                                Comment

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