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  • Leaky early Gemmer two tooth

    My car is a February '29 Tudor with a Gemmer two tooth steering gear. I believe this is an early version of the two tooth. The free play is not too bad and so I really don't have any plans for a rebuild, plus I have read that the races and bearings are different than the parts currently available that are made for the later models. (Correct me if I am wrong). The question is if there is a relatively easy way to seal the end. It seems to be leaking mostly from the very end and hardly at all around the sector shaft.

    Thanks,

  • #2
    There's a tube that goes in the end of the box that may work for you.
    Another alternative is to fill the box with PenRite steering box lube...........NO leaky.
    Paul in CT

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    • #3
      Bratton sells the tube Paul is referring to. It replaces the lower plate that the light switch retainer bail connects to.

      https://www.brattons.com/2-tooth-ste...end-plate.html
      Bill
      http://www.brauchauto.com/
      Eastern Connecticut

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      • #4
        To help seal the sector shaft there is also an O-ring and thin flat washer. Grease the O-ring and slip it on the sector shaft, then the flat washer, then install the steering box through the frame. I've installed a couple of these for customers years ago, and they worked as they should.

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        • #5
          Here is another leak point. Make sure it’s not running down to the bottom from this location.



          https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...=2450#post2450
          2 1930 Tudors

          Henry Ford said
          "It's all nuts and bolts"


          Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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          • #6
            I've put the tube in 4 of my A's. No complaints. Jeff

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            • #7
              We've found the cork gasket between the housing sections is sometimes missing or deteriorated, etc. Sometimes add a little teflon paste thread sealer on the sector adjustment screw with the washer Mitch shows.

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              • #8
                Back in the 80ts I took a 1/4 inch thick plate bored it to fit the shaft put a chamfer for a O ring. drilled two holes for for the mounting bolts. worked real well.
                O rings should have about .008 squeeze grease it good.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post
                  To help seal the sector shaft there is also an O-ring and thin flat washer. Grease the O-ring and slip it on the sector shaft, then the flat washer, then install the steering box through the frame. I've installed a couple of these for customers years ago, and they worked as they should.
                  So it sounds like this O ring and flat washer are both external to the box? Just remove the box, install the ring and washer to the shaft and bolt back in? I think I can handle that.


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                  • Dennis
                    Dennis commented
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                    Yes but read George's post #8. He used a plate that he drilled holes instead of a washer. You need something behind the ears of the steering box or it's possible to break the ears off when you tighten it.

                • #10
                  Originally posted by 2manycars View Post
                  Bratton sells the tube Paul is referring to. It replaces the lower plate that the light switch retainer bail connects to.

                  https://www.brattons.com/2-tooth-ste...end-plate.html
                  Thank you both!

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                  • #11
                    My washer looks crude but it works. I welded a couple of washers the same thickness as the washer in the middle so it wouldn't bend or break the ears on the steering box.

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                    • #12
                      The washer may work, but you need it to be tight to the shaft, plus you need a chamfered to put the right pressure on the O ring. And yes you need to support the ears of the steering box. We used all kinds of O rings in the cylinder manufacturing business.
                      Last edited by George Miller; 07-12-2018, 08:30 AM.

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