Pulled the rear from the car and removed all the brakes. Got it on saw horses and have what is called a traveling spring spreader looking for any extra precautions in removing spring with a spreader of this type . Thanks
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I have never used that type of spreader but I have heard people say they are dangerous. Actually you should have had the spreader on before you removed the spring and rear from the car. Now the only thing holding it together is that flimsy 90 year old bolt. Get some C clamps and heavy chain around it before you do anything. At least that will slow the missile down.
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This is what I use, Yes I know it's not to be trusted cause it's "homemade" but it's worked fine for me every time I've used it. Measure the spring pack and figure on 1/2 to 3/4" longer. Go to TSC for a grade 8 , 3/8" bolt in that length and nut and washer. Grind two opposing points off the head so it'll fit in the square hole in the frame. While your C-clamps are still holding the spring pack together undue the old bolt and replace it. Don't forget to orient the square head to the hole in the frame. That keeps it from slipping side to side.You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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Mine did not come from Brattons, but it is every bit as safe. It has been used by several in our club, they all praise it's ease of use and safety.You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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FWIW: Never heard of a spring spreader (55) years ago
1. My simple invention (55) years ago of a spring removal and install tool.
2. Threw the first one away (55) years ago and made another one (12) years ago to remove front & rear springs on my 1930 Town Sedan:
A. Remove both front and rear springs with shackles and axles attached.
B. Install the clamp shown below, (one spring at a time), on each separate, completely assembled leaf spring.
C. On each separate spring, securely tighten both threaded rods with nuts indicated to hold leaves tightly in place..
D. The metal plate in the top notched 2 x 4 has a square hole to securely hold the square head, (without moving), on top of the center bolt in the spring while the bolt nut is being loosened.
E. This square hole also allows the square bolt head to be properly aligned, (during reassembly), into the front and rear cross member centered square holes.
F. For loosening and tightening the center spring bolt nut, a hole is provided in the bottom notched 2 x 4 to fit a socket wrench on the nut provided on the center spring bolt.
G. The notch cut into both top & bottom 2 x 4's is same width as the width of the spring leaves.
H. After the spring is securely clamped, loosen the center bolt nut and remove it.
I. Carefully, equally loosen the threaded rod nuts until all of the top leaves are separated and can be easily removed.
J. Remove the single, bottom leaf attached to the shackles last.
K. After grinding and easing the square edges on all of the spring leaves, paint spring leaves, apply graphite mixed with grease, and reassemble the spring in reverse order and lastly, securely tighten the center spring nut.
I. (For improved safety's sake, the next one I make for my 1930 Coupe, will be made with two (2) pieces of channel iron just in case the wood would ever split and/or break.)You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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If I may ask why can't a proto power be used with a double push piston? I am sure there is a logical reason for not using it as no one has said anything about it.
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I'm not seeing how you get that tool on the spring with the spring still contained by the u bolts. If you have lowered the spring then you are still relying on that 90 year old rusty bolt. Am I missing something?
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Per #11 and 11.1:
A. Prior to rear spring removal, it is never a bad idea to first think about Life Safety and buy a "new", rear spring center bolt, in advance, from a reputable Model A parts supply place.
B. With rear "U" bolts still in place, I removed my Town Sedan's rear seat, sheet metal pan below, and removed the old rear spring center bolt and provided a new center bolt prior to loosing and removing rear spring "U" bolt nuts.
C. Caution: On the last Model A rear spring assembly, one never knows who may have possibly over-stressed this center bolt, (maybe more times than once), with God only knows how many excess foot-pounds of torque.
D. Even with a new spring center bolt, when this spring is in a shop and not yet installed, never a bad idea to add and secure the top center of the leaves with a securely fastened wrap-around chain.
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by knucklMy reversed eye front spring went in easily. I can see that the rear needs to be spread. Of course a spring spreader won't work with it. I was going to use the K. R. Wilson spreader but I have been warned that it is a very dangerous tool. It was also suggested to dismantle the spring. Bolt in the main leaf by itself as it would be easy to spread by hand. Then reassemble the spring. What do you th...
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by Bill in NJApproximately how many hours should it take one person to take out the old spring and install one I rebuilt with my spring spreader?? I also want to install new bushings in spring and rear. Mitch thanks in advance, this a great site with a lot of good information and people.
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by MickeyAnyone around here have a rear spring spreader I can borrow? Now that I have the body off this is the time to do the work. I'd be happy to come and pick it up and bring back.
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by EaganMikes-Affordable sell a rear spring spreading tool for 28 -31 Ford Model A's (blue in color) and I wondered if anyone has any experience with this tool? I have a 33 Ford that also has curved rear springs and the standard spreader won't work because the "pumpkin" gets in the way...wondered if the Mike's model might work on the 33 Ford. Really appreciate any guidance.
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by DennisI’m assuming this is for a Model T... were the T and the A the same width rear spring. I found this with some spring parts I never noticed today. I can’t find any reference in JS& RG about script clamps....
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by emacMy rear spring shackles (1930 CCPU) need replacing. I have read about a spreader and a bushing tool. If I am just replacing the shackles and not removing the axle or spring is there a preferred way to do it? Body and fenders are off, so I have plenty of access. I looked for a DIY thread but didnt see one. Thanks....
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Is there a way to tell how many leaves are in my spring while it is in my Truck?
Visibly I see only 6 leaves....You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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09-29-2020, 08:53 AM -
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Marco Tahtaras did an excelent REAR Spring Chart showing just where the different individual springs went in a assembled REAR spring.
That being the case ...did he ever do one for the FRONT Spring Assembly?
I say this because I have several disassembled front springs and I do not know just where some of the leaves would go because they are of different lengths and thicknesses....-
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01-20-2019, 05:08 PM -
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What is the best way to restore the leaf springs?
Electrolisis...Sand blast...wire wheel...all the above ...none of the above...
Followed by painting each leaf or not?...or use graphite grease...
Assemble....
What have you done in your restoration to have a good looking front and rear spring?
Thanks.
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