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    I cannot, fer the life of me, find a VIN conversion for Model A. I know it exists but I'm evidently search challenged. Help?

    Here's mine: VIN #A627274

  • #2
    The Vin number is usually the engine number. Yours looks to be a November 1928. It's from the very last page in Les Andrews red book.
    Last edited by Mickey; 02-13-2018, 02:04 PM.

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    • EarlyBert
      EarlyBert commented
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      Oh, silly me. The engine & frame number is supposed to be the same. I was looking at the chart & it says "ENGINE" so I couldn't get past that. Sheesh!

    • Mickey
      Mickey commented
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      Your 627,274 falls between 585,607 and 697,829 which shows to be Nov. 1928. Actually 11/12/1928
      Last edited by Mickey; 02-13-2018, 03:26 PM.

    • EarlyBert
      EarlyBert commented
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      HMM, Plucks engine chart mentioned below shows 3/28/28. Thoughts?

      You remember that "Red Book" bit me recently!
      Last edited by EarlyBert; 02-13-2018, 03:33 PM.

    • Mickey
      Mickey commented
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      You'Re coming up one number short. You're looking at 62,XXX rather than 627,XXX

    • EarlyBert
      EarlyBert commented
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      AAAH, yes. I see. What is the definition of an "AR"?

  • #3
    http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/studie...n%20Charts.pdf
    4~ Tudor's
    1~ Coupe

    Henry Ford said,
    "It's all nuts and bolts"


    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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    • EarlyBert
      EarlyBert commented
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      Looking at the chart referenced above, it looks like 3/28/28 would be correct. Would this be considered an "AR"? It was sold to me as an "AR" model.

    • EarlyBert
      EarlyBert commented
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      Ha! Getting more educated. Do you know what dates are considered "AR"?

    • Mickey
      Mickey commented
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      Sorry can't help with the "AR". It's not a right hand drive is it?

    • EarlyBert
      EarlyBert commented
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      Nope, It's LH.

    • CarlG
      CarlG commented
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      AR was never a designation by Ford. It generally refers to the '27 - very early '28 production vehicles. Sometimes only the first couple hundred off the line.

  • #4
    The date I have for that engine being finished and stamped is 11/12/28. As for AR cars, they are only "AR" because some of the parts were obsoleted and were the first 1928 cars that had the left hand brake lever and 4 wheel p-brake. The production of the passenger cars with left hand p-brake stopped formally in June '28, but there are a few passenger cars that were assembled after that with the left hand p-brake. Out here in So Cal we have 2 pickup trucks that are known 1929 builds with left hand p-brake. I have a July '28 Tudor with all the holes in body and frame for the left hand p-brake but is the center p-brake.
    Last edited by DaWizard; 02-13-2018, 04:14 PM.
    You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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    • EarlyBert
      EarlyBert commented
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      Thanks for the input Wiz.

  • #5
    A means it's the first design of that part, and R means it needs to be kept in stock as a replacement part because the following designed parts won't work in it's place. The early 21" wheels are an example of a part where the later 21" wheel can't be substituted for the first design. My 9-27-28 Model A might have some AR parts, or some BR parts, but it isn't what many people think of as an AR Model A. If someone calls your early Model A an AR, then they think of it that way because it has the left hand parking brake, and no separate parking brake bands, which started just before the middle of 1928.

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    • #6
      Thanks for helping me with this. I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge & the feeling that there is no such thing as a stupid question.

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      • Mitch
        Mitch commented
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        You would be surprised of how many others you helped by asking

    • #7
      Originally posted by EarlyBert View Post
      Thanks for helping me with this. I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge & the feeling that there is no such thing as a stupid question.
      Well, let me try..................is it OK to check the fuel level by removing the gas cap and using a match?

      Actually, I remember Paul Harvey telling about dumb criminals that did just that while stealing gas.

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      • #8
        YES, DUMB questions ABOUND, so do DUMB answers, get REAL!

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        • #9
          Ignorance is curable,stupid should hurt. Bear in mind although AR is has mystique in the community Ford revised those parts and systems for a reason..
          Last edited by CM2; 02-14-2018, 09:01 AM.

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          • #10
            Originally posted by EarlyBert View Post
            Thanks for helping me with this. I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge & the feeling that there is no such thing as a stupid question.
            Never, we ask because we do not know.

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