Side Mount

[Beauford]

anyone have a picture (without wheel) of spare tire side mount?

[Tom Wesenberg]

I don't but I think it was about page 428 in the Service Bulletins where I saw the picture last week.

[Beauford]

Thanks...found it on 262 of Red book.

[DaWizard]

Actually, my copy doesn't have that page in it, BUT, I was able to find the specs on pages 248 and 508 of my Service Bulletins.

[plyfor]

I posted about sidemount plate orientation due to no R & L markings and the detent around the slotted hole . Got inconsistent responses so I finally located a '31 plate photo on Ebay with studs attached . The detent or recess area on that plate faces the hood. Also, factory photos are inconsistent with the valve stems in all different positions. I placed mine at an angle facing forward, in line centered between the 2 top plate holes with the hubcap Ford logo perpendicular to the valve stem.

[Beauford]

Thanks Plyfor, I got my mount from Brattons and it says it can be mounted on either side. I was happy to see my frame had the mounting holes. I just need to mark and hole saw into the apron.

[H. L. Chauvin]

Just One (1) Way to Modify Model A Steel Side Plates for Providing Extra Large "Fully-Inflated-550-19" Tires" in Standard Model A Side Mount Fender Wells:

1. After reading Mr. Carl G's earlier post on his providing side plate modifications for installing his 550-19" radial tires in his Model A front fender wells, I did something very similar for my 1930 Town Sedan with an original side mount provided with by Ford with rivets securing the side mount arm.

2. Just in case anyone is interested, large "fully-inflated", 550-19" Radial Model A tires, (and inflated Firestone Tires), can be "dropped into" and "removed" from Model A front fender wells "if" one modifies the R or L side mounting plate.

3. First, get an extra plate to modify if one wants to keep their original plate .... after buying a plate from Snyder's, it was noticed that not all plates sold today resemble originals -- Bratton's, (with his usual attention to exacting details), had original type side mounting plates.

4. Study plate to verify when installed, wheel lug holes line up with wheel lugs after mounting plate on arm, and after mounting tire in fender well.

5. One (1) method for side mount plate modification is:

A. With a Dremmel tool or similar cutting tool, cut plate and extend plate's vertical slot, (same width), towards the downward direction to elongate the plate's vertical slot until this slot approaches about 3/8" from this plate's outside, outer edge.

B. With a ball peen hammer, drive out and remove all (3) of the pressed in side plate's lug bolts. (Quite easy).

C. Obtain three (3) bolts, (or a threaded rod), with lug nut matching bolt threads, and provide three (3) lug bolt Model A tapered lug nuts secured on one (1) end of these (3) threaded, rather short rods.

D. Place all (3) threaded rods through an old rusty spare 19" wheel with lug nuts installed on rods and provided on the outer side of this wheel.

E. Insert (3) threaded rods through the (3) round holes in the side plate; provide (3) regular hexagonal nuts on the in-side of the plate and tighten same to about 35 ft-lbs; and weld the (3) hexagonal nuts to the in-side back of the steel side plate. (This welding of nuts positioned as such to match wheel holes, "must" be done to insure perfect alignment of lug bolts and tapered lug nuts in any 19" Model A wheel.)

F. Remove (3) threaded rods and Model A tapered lug nuts.

G. Provide (3) good lug nuts on the out-sides of the (3) threaded rods and set these good lug nuts with "Lock-Tite".

H. Thread these (3) bolts, through the wheel into the (3) hexagonal welded nuts on the in-side back of the side plate to insure (3) bolts are long enough, and not too long extending beyond the in-side of the hexagonal nuts. Cut bolts, round off sharp edges, and modify as needed.

I. Prior to installing inflated 19" tire and wheel in spare tire well, secure wheel to side mount plate, and install plate on side mount arm bolt through elongated side plate slot.

J. To remove wheel from spare tire well, remove side mount arm bolt nut, and remove wheel with side mount plate attached.

6. Next, purchase a large, golf type umbrella and a flash light prior to going on a tour with other Model A owners.

7. If any of the other guys have side mounted spare tires with deflated tires, (and they get the most usual type Model A type flats in the dark while it is raining), approach them with your large umbrella and flashlight and keep them from getting totally drenched as they pump up their spares and check their spare tire air pressure in the dark while raining.

8. Hope this helps to avoid a few cases of Senior Type Pneumonia while Model A friends are fiddling around and pumping up Model A spare tires after dark, in the rain.

[plyfor]

I did something similar to H.L. and others for stock 19" wheels to prevent marring fenders and wheels, etc.:
Knock out studs from plate, file the square sides of the studs' bosses for firm slip -in fit to square holes. Studs came out by hammer with spare nut on end for thread protection. Use a press if available. I do not attach hub caps to wheels.
Attach plate to arm and install arm nut w/out cotter to allow plate to loosely slide up and down on arm.
Deflate tire a few psi and angle into well while moving plate as needed for clearance.
Rotate wheel as needed to align all holes and slip in studs from back. Install wheel nuts w/ a little non permanent thread locker as suggested by others..
(Place blanket, etc. on fender in case something drops.)
Wheel and plate will drop down in well when centered , etc. Then fill with 32 # air or to suit depending on tires.
Install washer , nut , cotter on arm end thru wheel.. Some like the nut slightly firm to prevent wheel from rattling.
Install hub caps with a few tabs bent for friction fit, and I use 30 minute GE silicon caulk on tabs and a few dabs on edge to hold cap. Caps need a plastic prybar to remove if needed.

[Mike V. Florida]

anyone have a picture (without wheel) of spare tire side mount?

Will this help?