Is there a way to tell just by looking (without tearing it apart) if your steering gear is a 7-tooth or a 2-tooth? I have two cars and the steering boxes look similar but not identical. One is very tight and the other is very sloppy. Both cars have been restored or re-built so just going by their years is probably meaningless. I need to get the sloppy one fixed but would like to know what I have before sending off for the wrong parts. Any advice here? WC Hall
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Yes, the 7 tooth has the tube welded onto the steering box and the 2 tooth has a clamp at the top of the box that attaches the tube. Rod"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell -
Welcome WC to the VFF!!!
Here are two links about the two tooth boxes. These will not only show you what's in your car but they can also aide you in repairing them. The two tooth boxes have many more adjustments over the seven. The first link is from our technical area and the second is a real nice site that one of our members made. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. This board is full of experts in the Model A field.
Plus what Rod said
https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...m-gear-install
3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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Welcome WC Hall. Always refreshing to have a new member join in on the fun here.
Generally the 28/29 had a 7 tooth, and 30/31 were 2 tooth. Mind you, these may have been swapped out on different cars over the years by their various owners.
That is a lovely 30 in your Avatar. It should have a two tooth.
Tell us about your cars. We "love" pictures.
Again Welcome..png "smile")
. Jeff
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Hey WC Hall, WELCOME to the VFF!!You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!Comment
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Welcome. Being in Knoxville you might also be interested in this.
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OK so now I know both of mine are 2-tooth, which I guess is good. Thanks for the help and I'll holler back when I figure out what to do next. WCHComment
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I need to tighten up my steering gear. Already did the tie rod and drag link ends, king pins and now it's time to make the adjustments. I read the instructions in the service letters several times, but it would be really helpful if there were a good video showing the process. Are there any such videos available?08-12-2020, 10:54 PM -
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Trying to learn something. Would this be a 2-tooth? ...07-11-2018, 10:11 PM -
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