I tried to put this link in the other thread as well but was not able to. This link has a lot of fasteners and good info which can be used in restoring our cars.
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I told Mitch about this and what got me to thinking about this came up when we were discussing how the windlace is attached in our model a fords. The windlace was attached by riveting a strip to hold the windlace in place on 28-29 cars as Wiz and Jim Mason showed us in pictures. So if your windlace is bad or frayed what do you do? You can use a shaveable blind rivet. After installing the new windlace you rivet the metal strip back in place using these rivets the shave tool finishes the rivet head to resemble the factory looking rivets. You can then paint the rivet heads to match your color. Now all of this is purely my idea and speculation nor have I tried this tool however I have used sealed pop rivets when I built my trailer. I am going to link a couple sites the first for rivets and the second for various fasteners that might be needed to repair our cars with in a restoration. I would be curious to know what guys like Brent do on cars with the riveted windlace on the 28-29 cars. -
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Thanks Chief for posting that rivet finishing tool. Does anyone have one here?3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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When I restored my 30 CCPU, I used stainless fasteners from "Stainless Town." Great quality, low prices and fast, reasonably priced shipping.
Not to be a smart ass, but for those who may not know, there are 2 basic types of stainless. 300 Series is non-magnetic. 400 Series is. For greater strength, 316 Grade in the 300 Series is good.
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Makes me think back to Ford Parts Mgr. days,,,, the dealership had a vendor, Rockford Specialties I think they were called, where they bought some fasteners and a few odd ball Ford- equivalent parts. Like the three on the tree shifter collar for early mid 70's F-Series trucks.
I would order fasteners from Ford as much as I could as we got PIPPS and POPPS allowances/credits from Ford to send back old NOS parts depending upon the dollar value of your total parts orders. Anyway, I recall the salesman telling the mechanics and I one day 'Don't ever ever reuse fasteners always use new because of the stretching of the bolts, torque values being wrong, etc." We just looked at each other and kinda rolled our eyes. Yeah maybe he was correct to a point, but he was trying to make sales.
I just cringe when I think of the original Ford fasteners I threw away over the years when I was young and stupid, from different antique Fords I've wrenched on. Ouch---- never would do that again!!
The worse case I recall is a Roadster Pop had many many years ago back in the 70's. It was a beautiful car, total restoration, but the guy that did the car (and he did a beautiful job) also owned an Ace Hardware store and you guessed it, EVERY nut and bolt on that car was Ace hdw. stuff he tossed the original. And back then I also recall guys saying stuff like 'Every nut and bolt on that car is new' it was a 'good' thing to many!Comment
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I have the tool to mushroom the rivets that im installing.....i am curious what people are using to put on the head side of the rivet to install them????
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I am in the process of installing the rivets in the sub frame/floorpan/seat frame of my 29 CCPU. I am using 7/16" long 3/16" diameter brazier head rivets. I am setting the rivets cold with a waffle tool in a CP 3X rivet gun. These rivets are long enough for all but 2 of the places rivets are required. I can't find any longer brazier head rivets after looking high and low – Big Flats Rivet...05-13-2020, 09:31 AM -
Why did Ford use the Waffle type stamping of rivets in places where a domed rivet would of worked just the same?
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What is the rule of thumb when it comes to riveting steel rivets?
If I were riveting a 1/4 inch diameter steel rivet to connect two pieces of metal together...would/should the shank of the rivet that is protruding out of the hole be 1-1/2 times the diameter of the 1/4 inch rivet? In other words the length of the shank of the rivet protruding out of the hole should be 3/8 inch in length?...10-04-2019, 10:18 PM -
In the past I have had a tough time installing the currently available "mat" rivets shown in the picture below. First the part that goes into the heavy 16 gauge cross sill and subrail extensions barely extend beyond the underside of metal they go in - i.e. not enough to properly roll the end of the rivet over. Second, even if I try to use a semi-tubular setting tool, the top part where...03-31-2020, 10:53 AM
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The tailgate chain bracket is installed with rivets. I am replacing mine with the correct brackets and rivets. The rivet tool I have will not fit around the bed to squeeze the rivets.
Any alternative way to install the rivets? The rivets are pretty strong....04-21-2021, 02:43 PM -
I have a question about the bottom rivet on pickup tailgates. I have a tailgate that does NOT have a bottom pair of rivets and one that does have a bottom rivets. I am attaching pictures of each tailgate. My question is what date and years are each used? My gut feel is the rivet was added later due to a problem, so the tailgate with the rivets at the bottom of the two straps was probably the later...You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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Hey guys someone one posted a rivet tool to use on the shell lacing that gave the proper shape when used. ,I think it was brattons or snyder's taht sold it but cannot find it anywhere, Any help would be appreciated......
Mark...04-27-2021, 06:46 PM -
Today I tried to attach the sunvisor to the brackets for my Victoria using the tubular rivets supplied by Lebaron Bonney. The rivets are too short to go thru both the visor and the bracket. Not enough rivet to roll over. The rivet measures 5/16 in length which is the same thickness as the visor without the bracket. All I accompished was to scratch the plating on the bracket and squish the visor....You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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I have assembled my transmission gearshift tower and am ready to install the rivets that go into the shifting forks.
My hands and fingers are to darn big to put those rivets in from the top to the bottom.
Is there a more simple way of doing it? I had forgot this procedure was a little hard to do!
Thanks.
Pluck02-08-2020, 10:53 PM
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