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    We need to have a VFF free tool loaner program. The user pays shipping
    Folks can post the tools they have and locations

    But what happens when it comes back in 2 pieces? Yikes
    4~ Tudor's
    1~ Coupe

    Henry Ford said,
    "It's all nuts and bolts"


    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

  • #2
    It's a great idea. I'd thought it would be such a waste to buy something like an expensive reamer to use only one time or a spring spreader. I'm sure we could work out something to protect the loner. Maybe a nice size security deposit refundable upon return of tool in good condition.
    Anyone need to borrow my Nu-Rex timing tool? :rolling

    P.S. I do have a rear hub drum if anyone needs to use it.
    Last edited by Mickey; 01-05-2018, 01:50 PM.

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    • #3


      Greyhound NBO or Fastenal interstore...works tits

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      • #4
        Everyone in our club knows that I have a lot of special tools, and they do get loaned out quite often. I doubt that I would be up to mailing them away though.
        Alaskan A's
        Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska
        Model A Ford Club of America
        Model A Restorers Club
        Antique Automobile Club of America
        Mullins Owners Club

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        • Mitch
          Mitch commented
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          C'mon Carl. You'll gettem back

      • #5
        wonder if there is a way on PayPal to hold money 'in escrow'
        kinda like going to OReilly's and shelling out the full cost of the tool you are about to borrow as a deposit, so that if you don't return it in 3 days, they can just buy a new one

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        • #6
          I guess another issue that can happen is the tool comes back damaged. Was it sent out that way or did the borrower do it?
          4~ Tudor's
          1~ Coupe

          Henry Ford said,
          "It's all nuts and bolts"


          Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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          • Beauford
            Beauford commented
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            I can screw up a crowbar so dont send me nothing!!

          • BILL WILLIAMSON
            BILL WILLIAMSON commented
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            I hope you're JOKING about this program??? I never LOAN TOOLS, I either SELL it to them or GIVE it to them! WHY??? Cuz they never COME BACK!!!
            Dad Onnery

        • #7
          I have a KR Wilson multi plate clutch tool, but since I sold the early 28, I want to sell it.
          Bill
          http://www.brauchauto.com/
          Eastern Connecticut

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          • JDupuis
            JDupuis commented
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            Check with Tony Hillyard, he is doing work on his multi-disc. He may be interested.

        • #8
          Well I shipped my $100.00 hollow rivet tool off to a VFF member.

          https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...t-rolling-tool
          4~ Tudor's
          1~ Coupe

          Henry Ford said,
          "It's all nuts and bolts"


          Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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          • #9
            Originally posted by Mitch View Post
            Well I shipped my $100.00 hollow rivet tool off to a VFF member.
            Should be no problem here, but it reminded me of the time in 1970, when a guy in our company (Army) asked to borrow some of my 8 track tapes because he wanted lots of good music for his date that night. The only date that scumbag had that night was straight to the pawn shop, where he got $1 each for my tapes.

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            • Hoogah
              Hoogah commented
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              Reminds me of a WWII story my dad used to tell. He and his little brother were in their teens. Chocolate was rationed but Dad had a bit of a stash. Little Bro asked for a block to take to the movies. Dad agreed, thinking that Little Bro wanted to impress a girl. Little Bro was spotted at the movies scoffing the chocolate with his mate!

          • #10
            It has never worked well for me. One time I had a part time mister working for me. He wanted to be a mechanic, i loaned him some of my old repair manuals for him to study, he moved and my manuals went with him. That is only one example.

            Not to long ago this guy that wanted to join our club, had me work on his pickup that would not run. I fixed it and had to put in some gas in. I put 15 dollars worth in. When he came to drive it home, I told him which parts he needed to order to fix a few things that it needed fixing. when he ask what he owed I said 15 for gas, he had no money nor did his wife. That was the last I saw him. Now 15 dollars is not much, but he will never get my help again. Now this is not a poor guy, he has a very nice place. Count me out.

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            • #11


              I wasnt the 8 tracks or the scumbags Tom,it was the Army..

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              • #12
                I had looked at doing something like this through Bratton's a couple of years ago. But after a nice long scary conversation with my insurance company I decided against proceeding with this idea.

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                • Hoogah
                  Hoogah commented
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                  Our local parts supplier (Henry's) loaned me a spring spreader when I was installing my Mitchell overdrive. Sent it down overnight by courier, along with some extra parts that we needed and an invoice was enclosed inside the package. He told me to return it when I could (he's 2 1/2 hours drive away). Mind you, I had just purchased the Mitchell from him, but I still thought it was a nice touch. I guess he didn't consult his insurance company!

              • #13
                Yeah, there is a lot of risk in loaning tools. The possibility of not getting a tool back, or getting it back damaged, is the least of the worry. You could find yourself liable for an an injury or damage - even if it’s really the idiot’s fault.

                of course, you could be in real trouble borrowing this guy’s tools:


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                • #14
                  I took a brand new three catalogue Ford Master Parts set with the Motorcraft binders home with me from the Ford dealership I worked at, 1965-1972 group, when they rec'd two sets from Ford. The dealer said 'no problem help yourself'. I always kept them inside the house, they were mint. I bought the binders.

                  About ten years later, when I was working another job, an 'acquaintance' pleaded with me to borrow them while he did some work on a '70 Boss 302. I said OK but take care of them. He wanted the diagrams and schematics of the various parts assemblies. 'I will and I'll bring them right back' was his response.

                  After close to 15 months later, I went to his house and asked for them back. He got all bent out of shape, said he wasn't done with them, I told him I needed them back, we went out to his crappy unheated garage and I got them back OK, ear bent pages many of them greasy and the metal parts of my binders were rusty. I took Never-Dul to the metal got it back half way decent, and nobody will ever use them. Again. They are in my heated garage where they will stay.....................

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                  • #15
                    I once loaned my sand blaster to a guy who returned it with the gun destroyed. I loaned my spring spreader to a guy and he returned it destroyed, as he missused it. I have also loaned tools that never came back. I am more careful now who I loan tools to.
                    Bill
                    http://www.brauchauto.com/
                    Eastern Connecticut

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                    • #16
                      I borrowed a screwdriver from a coworker and when he got it back, he said please borrow all my screwdrivers :-) I did and worked them over too!

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                      • BILL WILLIAMSON
                        BILL WILLIAMSON commented
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                        BH,
                        Did you hollow grind it nicely for him???

                    • #17
                      I loaned a coworker a pocket knife one day. Said he needed it to reach some gaskets his wouldn't. I had to ask for it back a week later, which he pissed and moaned about giving it back... with half the blade gone from a bench grinder.

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                      • #18
                        Now I'm afraid to loan out my wooden notched brake measuring stick. Jeff
                        Twiss Collector Car Parts

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                        • George Miller
                          George Miller commented
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                          One time a few years ago I made a lot of them for are club members to fit there body sty they had. I do not think many off them use them.

                        • Mitch
                          Mitch commented
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                          Wooden notch brake measuring sticks are for building houses. If you don't believe me just ask K-Dad

                        • JDupuis
                          JDupuis commented
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                          I know there are differing opinions on the stick. But, it is certainly helpful for initial set up. Jeff

                        • Tom F
                          Tom F commented
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                          I have a left handed pipe wrench if anyone needs it.

                        • BILL WILLIAMSON
                          BILL WILLIAMSON commented
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                          It would be GOOD for kindling!!

                      • #19
                        Originally posted by tbirdtbird View Post
                        wonder if there is a way on PayPal to hold money 'in escrow'
                        kinda like going to OReilly's and shelling out the full cost of the tool you are about to borrow as a deposit, so that if you don't return it in 3 days, they can just buy a new one
                        I have a bunch of Harley tools, I "loan" them out either by hand or mail. I get a tool cost deposit, give the individual a week to complete the job. Once the tool is returned I keep 10% and refund them the difference. Have had no issues, cam changes in a Harley is common, there is a tool that removes the inner cam bearings and resets the new ones to factory spec's. It is a blind bearing puller.

                        Renter pays shipping both ways. For $20 you can use the $200 tool. Good deal for all. I would pay for a special tool that will only be used once or twice. Makes no sense to buy one then throw it under the bench.

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                        • DaWizard
                          DaWizard commented
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                          Now wait just a minute! If that is a Harley tool you are suppose to buy it, use it once then place it in the tool box and take it out weekly and polish it!!

                        • Ed H
                          Ed H commented
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                          I have a few of those also. LOL

                      • #20
                        I got my tool back today from the borrower. It’s in perfect shape and clean. Hey being in the business I agree 100% about getting screwed and that you shouldn't loan your tools out.
                        Anyone else need to borrow something?
                        4~ Tudor's
                        1~ Coupe

                        Henry Ford said,
                        "It's all nuts and bolts"


                        Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                        • BILL WILLIAMSON
                          BILL WILLIAMSON commented
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                          Dear Son,
                          Kin I BORROW $100.00? The Gardener is coming tomorrow.
                          Sincerely, Dad

                      • #21
                        Originally posted by BILL WILLIAMSON View Post
                        Dear Son,
                        Kin I BORROW $100.00? The Gardener is coming tomorrow.
                        Sincerely, Dad

                        $100.00 to pick up in the back yard? You need to renegotiate your contract
                        4~ Tudor's
                        1~ Coupe

                        Henry Ford said,
                        "It's all nuts and bolts"


                        Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                        • Mitch
                          Mitch commented
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                          I think we will put you in charge of the VFF tool crib

                      • #22
                        I had a neighbor who would borrow my tools and not return them. One day he asked to borrow a tool and I told him he could if he returned the others. He said be had returned them. I then told him to sign for any tool he was to use and he had 24 hours to return it. He never borrowed another tool from me and I never loaned another tool out. I would lend one if they sign out for it.

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                        • #23
                          I would rather buy or make a tool than borrow, if possible. I usually break it , then I have to replace it, and then I still don’t have one, although I bought one ! Grrrr

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                          • #24
                            Its a nice gesture but not everyone is diligent and caring about tools. I raised three boys, and I can tell you that I bought most of my tools several times over...broken, missing, rusty, shrugs, I've seen it all. I wouldn't let my best friend borrow my tools...not because I'm so anal about it (I am), but because if the tool didn't come back on time and exactly as it left, I would hate that friend, and I don't want that to happen. With my personality, I have enough trouble making friends.

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                            • DaWizard
                              DaWizard commented
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                              I'd count you as a friend Alex. You call and I'll be there to help with what I can.

                            • Ayyy
                              Ayyy commented
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                              You're one of the good ones JC.

                          • #25
                            Loaned out a head puller via mail, came back with most of the threads on one of the pieces completely gone on one side. I guess he didn’t know to lift it straight by alternating the pulling points. I got it back, but borrower said musta sent it to him that way. What you gonna do? Stop lending out tools.......I do like the idea of helping out fellow Aers but not all are worthy of borrowing tools, unfortunately.

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