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    Model A, B and T Ford four cylinder Vintage Speed, Sport, racing, performance, touring speed parts and Secrets Magazine

  • #2
    Or this maybe if your building a hotrod there are some rather interesting things to look at here.
    Model A, B and T Ford four cylinder Vintage Speed, Sport, racing, performance, touring speed parts and Secrets Magazine

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    • #3
      All I can say is......Wow!

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      • #4
        I have not heard great things about the lion flathead, but the riley is well thought of.
        Bill
        http://www.brauchauto.com/
        Eastern Connecticut

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        • George Miller
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          I had number 4 Lion head. I did not like it, Brumfield for me is much better. But that was a few years ago maybe they are better now. One good thing they were so heavy they would stay on with out bolts.

        • BNCHIEF
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          It looks neat, what was it you did not like just asking since I know nothing about it.

        • George Miller
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          It just did not run that good. It run like it was retarded. Brumfield head has more power and sounds better. But like I say that was a few years back, maybe better now.

      • #5
        The Rileys are a mechanical joy for sure. I am thinking many of them are cracked at this point. I did motor work for a guy who wanted to have a Riley on a B motor. I busted my ass on that motor, and to get the oiling just right I followed Brierley's book to a T. I sent the block off to Bill Barlow for a babbitt job, even.

        The head had a history of being cracked, so the guy had it welded up. I was skeptical, since in my experience you cannot successfully weld cast unless you can heat the whole thing up near to red. There are only a couple places in the country that can do this properly. I have seen every welded block or head fail. I told the guy to have the head pressure tested, something I do not have the equipment for. He said it didn't need it. I should have stopped right there.

        On the day of the test fire on the engine stand, I filled the cooling system with water and hit the starter. It would not budge at all. I had been using the starter already on the block so I knew the starter was OK. I said, crap, the thing can't be hydro-locked already!
        Guess what. We pulled the plugs, hit the starter to blast the water out of the cylinders, and I was done

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        • #6
          Old stuff like that makes me nervous and you are right about welding cast iron and heat as well.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by BNCHIEF View Post
            Old stuff like that makes me nervous and you are right about welding cast iron and heat as well.
            In the 80's I overhauled a diesel Case tractor that had two cracked heads. The farmer said he'd find some good used heads, and later showed up with two welded heads. I said that's not what I would use, but he insisted, and said they were guaranteed. I said OK, but I won't guarantee them nor a rework. A week later I was overhauling the tractor again because the welds leaked and took out the bearings. This time he found good used heads without welds.

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              Originally posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post

              In the 80's I overhauled a diesel Case tractor that had two cracked heads. The farmer said he'd find some good used heads, and later showed up with two welded heads. I said that's not what I would use, but he insisted, and said they were guaranteed. I said OK, but I won't guarantee them nor a rework. A week later I was overhauling the tractor again because the welds leaked and took out the bearings. This time he found good used heads without welds.
              Sad, people come to a reputable shop for advice and expert service. Then they totally ignore a professional to save a couple of $$. Prior to being an LEO, I was a service manager for a reputable Chev dealership. So many times the know it all customer told me what was wrong and how to fix it.
              Sad really

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              • Mitch
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                It's nice to know that there is at least one reputable dealership out there

              • 1931 Flamingo
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                You mean BESIDES yours??
                Paul in CT

              • BNCHIEF
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                At my local ford dealership there is one mechanic who works on my stuff, I leave it with him and he works it in, have known him for years he also has a vff calendar on the wall in his bay and will put christmas lights around it in december to highlight a certain car.

              • Mitch
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                Paul
                I'm talking NEW car agencies because they all blow pretty much

            • #9
              Here are a few more interesting things for the model a/b
              Having shipped auto parts all over the world from our small facility in central Ohio, USA, we have been fortunate to meet fellow rodders and make friends around the globe. When we're not manufacturing car parts for great four bangers, we're usually tinkering with our own vintage speedster.

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            • #10
              Anybody run one of these?
              Buy Thomas High Compression Head for your Model A at SnydersAntiqueAuto.com.

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