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Tired of dealing with the 1932 Parts Price List. Is anyone reprinting any earlier versions, maybe a mid 1929 version? Thanks Rod
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"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell -
There is a July 1931 reprint.
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Thanks Bob. I am not sure that would fully address my issues concerning the hardware finish and length issues I am trying to sort out. The 1937 parts list when it comes to hardware is even worse. The 1932 version is fuzzy at best and with a few pieces being down right wrong. May buy a 1931 copy and see, but feel a June-October 1929 version would be much better. Was sorting through bolts etc until 11:30 last night and suspect a hardware length change for the u-joint housing when the design was changed in mid 1929, but could not find reference to that in the 1932 parts book. Also the part number for the bell housing to transmission bolt part number is a typo. References to correct finish for some fasteners is flat out wrong for some bolts. Rod -
Rowdy, I emailed Jim Cannon earlier this year with questions regarding hardware and he forwarded my questions to Steve Schmauch, JSC Chairman, who in turn replied with extensive information regarding hardware and price lists. The Judging Standards Committee are aware of the mistakes in all the sources of information, but nobody is willing to take action to correct all of the mistakes as it would add to the contents of the Guidelines. Steve didn't go into detail which mistakes there are, but did give somewhat of a timeline and explanation of changes around 1928 that took place, some of which were believed to have been carried over from Model T information regarding hardware. PM me if you want as my interpretations could be wrong if I tried to explain the answers I was given. This was from back in Oct., 2017 when I questioned valve chamber bolts/screws that I interpreted as round head instead of hex head, Judging Standards require hex head as we all know.
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Thanks Dennis. What is regaurded as the most accurate publication for screw, bolt and other hardware for March-July 1929 cars? While neither of these will ever be in fine points judging I do try to be accurate when I can. More little things to research as I have time. These bolts are easy ones to change later, so no real hurry. Rod"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas SowellComment
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I would check ebay for the PPL that was first published after your car was built. Marco posted a list of all the dates of the PPL, but I don't have it. I do know I have found mistakes in the PPL, so I'd expect some mistakes in each one published. If the case of a mistake, I'd just go with the JS or what you know or think is correct.
This is why unrestored cars are so valuable, and many restored cars were so good that they should have been left original.Comment
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Pretty sure the chassis for the delivery is an April or early May built car. While Dad's coupe began life an a January or Febuary 1929 car, due to a tittling delima it would be considered a July car and has a gas tank with a firewall date to match. Only a very few people would be able to tell the difference as I have changed most things to match the July time line. The only give aways would be the center cross member and the placement of the bolt hole for the muffler clamp. Would be nice to have one to cover both although March-May time line would be close enough. Rod
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After looking at the list of Parts Price Lists on Vince's site I think the June 1st of 1929 Parts list would be the most helpful. None listed on E-bay at this time. Seen a couple of other Ford publications listed that would be nice as well. If I get to go to Branson maybe I will get lucky. Does anyone know which days will have the swapmeet area open? May have missed dates and time schedule on the link when I was looking Christmas day. Browsing the site and discussing was cut short when I was called in to work to move snow ahead of arriving trucks in to the distribution center. Most start arriving at 3 am., so I got a 3 1/2 hour nap and arrived at midnight with 2 others and got busy. Rod"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas SowellComment
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Rowdy,
If you need any of the Parts Price Lists, you can contact the Ford Archives and for a minimal cost, they will print out any PPL you want. They printed out several for me a few years back.
As far as I know, the June 1929 has not been reprinted and you may find an original out there...The Archives printed that one for me and did a very nice job doing so as with the other 4 that they printed.
As it is, I have 2 from 1928, 4 from 1929, 3 from 1930 and 2 from 1931.
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Thanks Steve. I will contact them later this week. Depending on price I may have 2 others made also. None on ebay right now. Rod"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas SowellComment
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Thanks Mark. I will be in touch. As far as parts for the delivery the list is quite short. Just need a dome light switch and the rear door latch cover. Dads coupe only needs 2 parts for the roof, one of which is the beltrail moulding. The one locally was too far gone to even attempt using. He may convert it from a Special coupe to a business coupe if the right opportunity arises. I know he and I like the look more than the Special coupe. Rod"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas SowellComment
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I have a Standard Hardware Guide that has no date when it was published. I contacted Jim Canon months ago who is the technical director of MAFCA who forwarded my email to the JSC director at the time. I don't remember the director's name without looking for that email. Back to the guide I have found several mistakes and have forgotten a lot of them. I remember the chairman mentioned the difficulty...06-10-2018, 02:35 PM -
Can someone help me find where the head lamp bar mounting hardware is discussed in the RG&JS? This would be the carriage bolts, nuts, etc. that mount the bar to the fender brackets. I've looked in Sheetmetal (fenders), Lamps (mounting bar), Undercarriage (fender brackets) sections and I must be missing something. I'd like to confirm the mounting hardware sizes and finishes.gif "confused")
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I bought the "Model A Standard Hardware Manual" - and it does indeed have lots and lots of hardware (bolts, screws, nuts, fasteners...) listed in it. But I thought it might have more pictures of where those fasteners were exactly or what they were. I don't know what each and every part is supposed to be called. It does a good job of listing the hardware but if you don't exactly know what/where...You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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I was looking at the Standard Hardware 1928-1931 guide and noticed a few pieces that didn't seem to go with some of my hardware, but I'm sure more was changed than I first thought. As an example I notice about every vendor that sells valve chamber cover bolts are hex head raven, but in the Standard Hardware they are supposed to be round head bolts, B-39 which look like an ordinary round head 5/16-18...10-19-2017, 01:09 AM
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Is there any reference material that shows all the hardware used on the model A? Like body to frame bolts or screws for the door hinges or bolts that attach the spare tire carrier. I see a book for call Ford model A standard hardware, but the short synopsis seems to indicate chassis hardware only. The car I am working on was not complete when I got it and I took it apart many years ago before I learned...08-24-2022, 07:10 PM -
I am trying to get a pile of parts to have cad plated. Here is my list so far.
Backing plate bolts and nuts
Adjustment wedges
Headlight swith body
Brake light switch
Headlight switch mount
Accelerator pepal
Starter switch and rod
Now my mind is drawing a blank, can you help me add to the list or correct the list? This is an April/ May 1929...11-13-2020, 01:54 PM -
I’m rebuilding the rear axle on my 1930 roadster. On dissembling the axle, I’ve discovered that the driver side housing is 1928 and the passenger side housing is 1929, based on location of seams. I also found that all 20 differential bolts are not original, as they have no shoulder above the threads, and all had lockwashers. So, at some point before I owned the car, the axle was replaced....07-26-2020, 09:43 AM -
Does anyone have a 1926-1927 Parts Price List for the Model T Ford?
Thanks.
Pluck06-15-2022, 12:14 AM -
Does anyone have a 1926-1927 Parts Price List for the Model T Ford?
Thanks.
Pluck06-15-2022, 12:15 AM -
While rummaging around in my various cans and butter tubs I come to find some original domed head bolts with a unique feature that I bet few know about. As you can see from the pictures, these are indeed domed bolts that I believe were used as valve cover bolts with split washers.
The unique feature is on the backside of the head, now after all this time, almost worn off are little bumps....You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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