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    I dropped off my freshly powder coated wheels and radial 19’s and balancing beads and rim liners to my trusted tire guy just now. He just called me back and said the rim liners are not necessary where the inside of the rims are so nice. He said they may even cause problems.
    Is there a problem with not using them?

  • #2
    What kind of problems will they cause?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mitch View Post
      What kind of problems will they cause?
      As soon as I hung up I wished I’d asked that.

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      • George Miller
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        I would use them.

    • #4
      I would use them without hesitation.. It’s cheap protection
      3 ~ Tudor's
      Henry Ford said
      "It's all nuts and bolts"


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      • George Miller
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        maybe he does not know how to install them.

    • #5
      I assume you mean the narrow thin rubber bands that cover the spoke area. I'd use them.

      The wide thick tire flaps are only to be used on split rims for AA trucks. I've heard of some people wanting to use them on cars.

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      • #6
        they protect the tubes from the ends of the spokes, use'em

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        • #7
          If you have a HC head and run octane boost your liable to spin the rims inside the tires The liners will protect the tubes from chaffing when this happens If you don’t believe me ask. K-DADDDioo
          3 ~ Tudor's
          Henry Ford said
          "It's all nuts and bolts"


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          • #8
            Originally posted by Mitch View Post
            If you have a HC head and run octane boost your liable to spin the rims inside the tires The liners will protect the tubes from chaffing when this happens If you don’t believe me ask. K-DADDDioo
            You need to drill a bunch of holes in the rim flare and install 1/2" long sheet metal screws to lock down the tire.

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            • BILL WILLIAMSON
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              I saw "THE MORMON METEROR", in the Utah State Capitol building, the wheels used SQUARE LAG Bolts, to secure the HUGE Tires to the rims.
              KDadiooo

          • #9
            I used them on freshly powder coated rims. Like others have said: cheap insurance.
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            • #10
              They called back and said they were having a hell of a time getting the beads in the tubes. I remember someone here mentioning an electric massager can be used to vibrate the beads in (I think this was Carl’s trick). I grabbed my horse massager and went down there. We had one done in 3 minutes.
              I told them to use the rim liners.

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              • Mitch
                Mitch commented
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                How much did you charge them?

              • Curly
                Curly commented
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                It’s a good business, they’ve been good to me. They’ve done beads on larger tires but I presume they were tubeless. They were pretty impressed by the massager trick. I took full credit for it of course.

              • BNCHIEF
                BNCHIEF commented
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                I used a dremel engraver the vibration was just enough to make them go in quick and easy HL Chauvins tip on using the brass tube made a big difference especially if you had the metal stems put in. Rim liner absolutely.

              • CM2
                CM2 commented
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                knew a hooker in the phillipines who made a good living with a horse massager and beads..

            • #11
              An electric engraver should be able to vibrate the stem also.

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              • BNCHIEF
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                It does quite well Tom it is what I used.

            • #12
              FWIW:

              A. Like everyone else above who recommends them, rim liners offer added "safety" protection where the tubes contact the irregular surfaces of the welds on the spokes.

              B. Also something else recommended to check after powder coating Model A rims .... "with" .... tubes is:

              1. After having my (5) wheels first primed & powder coated by a true professional, (as recommended by him), I passed my hand on the in-side surface of the powder coated rims which contact the tubes where I found about (4) sharp spots that could easily puncture a tube.

              2. Again as recommended by the powder coater, I used medium sandpaper followed with fine sandpaper to smooth out these built up sharp powder coated protruding edges.

              3. Some of these sharp spots were not located under the rubber rim liner.

              C. When "all" car tires had tire tubes, all drivers back then expected to see a driver to have his car jacked up in a lane of traffic up while this car owner repaired a flat.

              D. Today, if one jacks up one's Model A in a lane of traffic to change or repair a Model A tire and/or Model A tire tube, modern drivers will not be expecting to see this ............. having Model A flats often today is a safety hazard.

              E. Today, also appears "Safe" to:

              A. Provide Model A rubber rim liners on powder coated wheels; and also,

              B. Please refrain from trying to sell large American Flags on busy street corners in North Korea.

              Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 12-29-2017, 12:47 AM. Reason: typo

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              • #13
                Originally posted by H. L. Chauvin View Post
                FWIW:

                B. Please refrain from trying to sell large American Flags on busy street corners in North Korea.
                Your point about modern drivers not being accustomed to seeing broke down cars at roadside is a good one. In times past this was a daily occurrence.

                Your suggestion to to avoid selling large American flags in North Korea is also a good one.

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                • BILL WILLIAMSON
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                  I could be a BARBER, in N. Korea---LOL
                  Dad Snipper

              • #14
                I'm just guessing; however, if one installs Model A "radial" tires with recommended "radial" rated tubes ........ in lieu of "bias" tires with different more inexpensive tubes ..... it could be that providing rubber rim liners is even "more important" to install when combined with "radial" tires.

                From reports read on the internet, and from recommendations from Coker Tire technicians, special radial tubes are required to be installed with "radial" tires because "radial" tires and "radial" rated tubes flex a lot more than "bias" tires when one is traveling on the highway.

                If so, just imagine the constant wearing characteristics of a "radial" rated inner tube constantly rubbing on the metal spoke bumps on the in-side of a Model A rim "without" a rubber rim liner.

                Rim Liner 101 Final Exam Question: Do shoe soles protect the skin on the bottom of your feet when walking on a gravel road?

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                • Big hammer
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                  Final Exam Answer
                  Only if your wearing the shoes

                • H. L. Chauvin
                  H. L. Chauvin commented
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                  Big hammer passed the Final Exam 100% and won a Gold Star !

              • #15
                I used the liners and the radial tubes. Turned out nice. One on.
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                • Mitch
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                  Curly

                  Sweet & Sweet

                  Colors are deceiving on the computer but your shade of Tacoma looks nice from here.

              • #16
                I really like the look of those tires on my car, wait til you drive your truck with them on. Nice looking truck you have..

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                • #17
                  I’m excited to drive it. I have a friend who has the same setup on his truck and he loves them. I don’t normally drive it in the winter but I might need to sneak out for a short ride this weekend.

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                  • BNCHIEF
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                    Do that and you won't be able to sit still til spring, if your bored you go to Carl's and polish and wax his new brake drums.

                  • CarlG
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                    Thanks a lot Chief

                  • Curly
                    Curly commented
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                    My wheels actually came off Carl’s truck. He’s in the states so I went over to his place with a jack and a tire wrench and took his. Saved myself $2000.
                    Don’t tell Carl, hate to ruin his trip.

                • #18
                  Congratulations Curly. Now you can be almost like me.
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                  • #19
                    I took my truck out in the yard for a drive. You will notice my front hub cap went left when I went right. The caps were all pushed on all the way and felt tight. Sweet wife found delinquent hub cap. What’s the secret to keeping them on?
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                    • Mitch
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                      Bend 4 - 6 of the tabs so they lock onto the rim. Hold the outside tight and use a large straight screw driver

                  • #20
                    Great. Looks much better than your 16 inchers. I’m sure you will enjoy them.
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                    • Mitch
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                      It doesn't look that cold there.. hmm

                    • Curly
                      Curly commented
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                      I love them Carl. Gives me a bit more of the original look. Once I saw yours it was just a matter of time.

                    • BNCHIEF
                      BNCHIEF commented
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                      It's nice to be able to help other folks spend their money, did you notice the difference in ease of steering?

                    • Curly
                      Curly commented
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                      I was driving in packed snow and only a 1/4 mile but I do think it steer a bit easier. Hard to tell. I just put on tube shocks as well so it’s going to have a new feel I suspect.

                    • BNCHIEF
                      BNCHIEF commented
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                      You will notice a big difference on dry pavement.

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