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    I haven’t been running engine pans. I got a set recently thinking I wanted to add them. After dry fitting them I’m wondering if I even want them on.
    Advantages—
    1. Keep engine cleaner.
    2. Engine cooling, although I haven’t heard any conclusive evidence this is factual.
    3. Electrical ground, but this is not an issue for me.

    Do you run them? Why?

  • #2
    Curly, This is an excellent question. Saturday and today I noticed that after I replaced the hood my Tudor ran hotter. Now, this wasn't that much hotter, but enough to take my notice since I am very heat conscience. It was put to me tonight after I mentioned it to a couple of the club members that I should add the pans, but like you, I am not sold that they will cool the engine better with them. So, I will be keeping a close eye on this thread, as I know you will be too.

    Thanks for asking.
    You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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    • #3
      I have neither any "Pro's" or "Con's" in running with them or without them...My Model A's have them for the simple fact that Ford had a good reason for them and decided that they were a must on every Model A/AA Ford. Wheather they help in the cooling of the engine, I have no idea...Have always wondered about that however. Yes, they are a pain in the BUTT to take off and put back on...Oh well...they will stay on.

      Pluck

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      • #4
        The air is forced to the back of the engine before it can leave the engine compartment. I'll leave it up to you to decide if the air that is forced along the block will be better at cooling the block then not having them.

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        • #5
          DaWizard, your hood comment makes me question the validity of engine pans helping with the cooling. It stands to reason that more air over the engine is going to assist in cooling. The pans may help direct that air but they will also limit the air flow.

          The roads are much cleaner today than they were 85 years ago. For this reason alone I can understand why Henry put them on. A dirt covered engine runs hotter than a clean engine. Maybe this is why people started saying pans help keep the engine run cooler. Hell, I don’t know.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Steve Plucker View Post
            My Model A's have them for the simple fact that Ford had a good reason for them and decided that they were a must on every Model A/AA Ford.

            Pluck
            This is a good point. I like original.

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            • #7
              Some more info to digest
              Be sure to read post #15
              https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...ine-pans-paint

              i’ll leave my yea or nea 2 cents out of this post, and just say it’s up to you. It does make the engine bay look nicer.
              3 ~ Tudor's
              Henry Ford said
              "It's all nuts and bolts"


              Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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              • #8
                I have them on my car and notice absolutely no change whatsoever in heating or cooling however they just make the engine bay look cleaner and neater IMO and they also keep dust down if you drive on a dirt road, some guys do not run air filters one more reason to run them, now think about driving your car if it rains or mists what does your car look like after that if it was clean(road grime) helps to keep your nicely painted engine clean. All of these are my thoughts and opinions and just that. Not to mention post 15 in Mitch's link, Mike always ruins good theories with facts and also because he writes some of the best posts on this forum.
                Last edited by BNCHIEF; 12-12-2017, 07:06 AM.

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                • #9
                  They keep the engine bay and engine cleaner, especialy if you drive on dirt roads, like my son and my brother do. I think the ground issue is an old wive's tale. The engine is grounded by the front motor mount, and the rear spring. I really doubt Ford installed them for a ground. If he thought a better ground was necessary, he would have provided an extra cable, as many people do.
                  Bill
                  http://www.brauchauto.com/
                  Eastern Connecticut

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                  • #10
                    Lots of cars used them back then. If they keep the engine cooler why did they quit using them.

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                    • #11
                      I'm sorry, but new to the hobby (obsession) other than an oil pan what kind of "pan" are you folks talking about?
                      P.S. Picture would be helpful.
                      Last edited by Mickey; 12-12-2017, 08:24 AM.
                      http://www.turnbophotography.com

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                    • #12
                      Get'em MIckey and the bolt kit.. I'll throw them on when we finish up the work
                      3 ~ Tudor's
                      Henry Ford said
                      "It's all nuts and bolts"


                      Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                      • Mickey
                        Mickey commented
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                        On order. I hope to hear from Randy that he has the brakes. The springs are on hand. I'm working on the bed and may install the shocks. The generator is also installed and I've contacted Tom to get one of his EVRs.

                    • #13
                      While working around the engine compartment, the pans direct all the stuff I drop to one small area behind them on the floor.

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                      • #14
                        The best thing i like about them is they are something else i need to keep shiny
                        3 ~ Tudor's
                        Henry Ford said
                        "It's all nuts and bolts"


                        Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                        • George Miller
                          George Miller commented
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                          Make sure you get them all lined up nice. The hex on the nuts should all be in the same plane.

                        • Mitch
                          Mitch commented
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                          You know they are.. all the flats are the same

                      • #15
                        Polishing engine pans:rolling

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                        • #16
                          I had them on Sarah, they now sit in the corner of the garage. I don't live on dirt or gravel roads, I don't plan on driving in rain, she is well grounded and having them on for cooling, air is forced through the front only. Having them off, air from the front and ground is double the air flow....IMO!!!
                          "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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                          • #17
                            If you go on tours ed it is a different storu if you do not you can pick the weather and roads.

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                            • #18
                              Sarah is pampered...like any of my other lady friends.
                              "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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                              • #19
                                When driving on wet roads puddle splash and tire spray will direct some water to get sucked into the carb airhorn. This is the main reason why Henry installed them

                                Did that sound convincing?

                                If you want to decarbonise your engine, run without them

                                Just dont liquid lock it and bend a rod.
                                3 ~ Tudor's
                                Henry Ford said
                                "It's all nuts and bolts"


                                Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                                • #20
                                  I’m with Mickey, what does this pan look like, and where is it? I’m guessing kind of a fairing under the engine ?

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                                  • Mitch
                                    Mitch commented
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                                    See post #11's comment

                                • #21
                                  Yeah and think about the fine dirty mist that gets on a clean car when you drive it after a rain where does it go, into the carb because it is a vacuum.

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                                  • #22
                                    OK, I'll compromise and put one pan back on under the carb!!!!!
                                    "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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                                    • Mitch
                                      Mitch commented
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                                      Bad move! It will make your car (Sarah) uneven

                                    • Apple Green Wheels Rule
                                      Apple Green Wheels Rule commented
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                                      Actually it will even her up when I'm driving her.

                                  • #23
                                    MOST that argue AGAINST THEM, are just too LAZY to put them on

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                                    • #24
                                      I got a pair with my 29, uninstalled. I'm sure they are repros. I guess I will install them eventually. With so many purists reasoning "that if you needed it Henry would have included it" I'm surprised there is no outrage at those of us that don't have them! My thought, if Henry didn't think they were necessary, he wouldn't have spent the money to produce and install them.

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                                      • #25
                                        Answer to most problems. Buy a pressure washer. Works on the outside too. Keep her clean.

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