Ok Mitch, and everybody, Photo on far left is without using original washer but the ARP nut has the same diameter as the washer. Also there is room for cotter pin. Photo on far right is using the washer but no room for cotter pin. Both ways are using all the threads of the ARP nut. Photo #3 shows the rear puller that caused all my grief on the left. On the right is a work of art made by Mitchel in Cal. I think same people that make the overdrive transmission. It can pull both styles of hubs. Last photo needs no explanation but I am not going to be ready for Xmass parade.
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I vote for no washer.. The nut will be further up threads and you still have the cotter pin hole without drilling the nut. The cotter pin is not to stop the nut from coming loose, but to prevent it from spinning off..3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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I am with Mitch, nut and cotter pin but no washer. I do like the looks of the ARP nut. What is the part number of that nut?
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Agree best option. Just make sure it is tight.Comment
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Henry himself would give a thumbs up to the nut and cotter without the washer.Comment
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Agree with all, per those pix no washer needed, it is built inComment
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Do you have a link to the ARP nut you purchased?3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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Page 290 in the service bulletins..
Remove the nut and turn it around so the castles are pointing inwards. This prevents swelling and deformity of the axle ends when using the puller
320BD24D-70D8-4696-B558-9D55F928AC1F.jpeg3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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Thanks Mitch, that will work with the new puller, but not the el-chepo $30 puller that I was using Because the axle must go up into the puller with no room for a nut. The problem is you cant see what is going on with the end of the axel. Would just like to put out an alert to folks not to use the cheap puller. BobComment
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I have this hub puller made by Mitchell. It's a little more than $30, but has been well worth the price paid. It will work with both styles of hubs up thru '48.You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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I have one like Carl has and the pinion puller from Mitchell. Tomorrow afternoon I'm getting started on a rear axle that has different hubs, one old style and the other newer. I can only imagine whats inside.Comment
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As you may remember, I buggered up the threads on my rear axles ( yes both of them, I'm stubborn) using the cheap puller sold by all the venders. For those that suggested putting the nut back on, that wont work with this puller as the axle goes up inside the puller. I have chased the threads and now new castellated nuts will go on but I can feel about .001 inch looseness when I rock the nut back...You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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Stripped Rear Axle Threads!
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As you may remember, I buggered up the threads on my rear axles ( yes both of them, I'm stubborn) using the cheap puller sold by all the venders. For those that suggested putting the nut back on, that wont work with this puller as the axle goes up inside the puller. I have chased the threads and now new castellated...You do not have permission to view this gallery.
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Henry Ford LOVED castle nuts! Question(s): when making repairs involving removal or a castle nut and cotter pin do you return the nut and pin or use thread locker? Also, if you reuse the nut and cotter pin what trick do you use to find the little hole in the nut and align that with the slot in the nut? Asking for a friend.08-02-2022, 08:35 PM -
Happy New Year VFF !!!!! I am trying to figure out if my engine has been gone through before......I took off the valve cover (if anyone wants a Winfield valve cover PM me) to reseal and inspect because of leaks. I noticed a pretty big nut behind the valves in the middle of the motor on the bottom of the valley this nut is a Ny-Lock....pretty sure they didnt have this back in the day. What is this...01-01-2018, 11:25 AM -
Putting on my new powder coated splash pans with period correct bolts from brattons. In the judging standard books it says that in the later years they switch from cotter pin to lock washer.......i put the lock washer on the nut side (square) but it doesnt look quit right. the washer doesnt go on the head side by chance?04-30-2018, 03:09 PM
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The repair kit from Brattons contains a brass "washer" and a hard rubber washer. Are either of those used on a 30-31 A? If not that leaves the mount, 3 springs and a nut with cotter pin. Anything else needed?12-21-2017, 11:02 AM -
Never really thought about my front spring perches too much when building my car until I saw a thread here on them. I know they were in good shape in the beginning as theres not much to them. I went under and noticed one of the special castle nuts was really bad..like some of the nut was missing on the backside. So ordered two new special nuts. While I wait I decided I should remove the nut. The nut...09-22-2018, 02:14 PM -
PO boogered up the castle nut that holds the right side steering arm in place and broke off most of the castles can someone confirm the correct size? My research says 3/4-16 . Also were they zinc or cad plated? All I’m seeing are zinc at the vendors but cannot verify fitment. Thanks in advance.04-30-2023, 10:29 PM -
I went for a short ride tonight. Turned on the gas valve, etc. Drove around and when I got in my garage and attempted to turn off the gas, the little arm was missing. Found the arm and a small lock washer but no nut. So far, nothing I have fits. Valve is a 40 year old reproduction. Anyone know what the nut size and thread spacing are?...12-12-2021, 10:41 PM -
Can't remember.... is there a washer that goes under the castle nut on the water pump shaft between that nut and the fan blades? Thanks! Mike06-09-2017, 10:58 PM
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