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  • My last technical question for 2020!!!!

    I'll be switching out my gas shut off valve in the Spring and changing out the pencil filter as the same time. Seems re-pop pencil filters are loose fitting in the shut-off valves from Snyder's. Any suggestions where or what can be done to get a snug new pencil filter fit in a new shutoff valve?
    "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

  • #2
    Solder the end sand/file to refit.

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    • #3
      I lied....another techno question............

      BTW, I'd like to flush out the gas tank while the shut off valve is out. I usually pour in a gallon of gas and let it flush out and grime. Is that kosher?
      "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Apple Green Wheels Rule View Post
        Any suggestions where or what can be done to get a snug new pencil filter fit in a new shutoff valve?
        What Gary said.....
        I purchased a new valve and strainer. The strainer does not fit tightly in the hole in the valve. If I remove the valve stem so as to not melt the o-ring, can I just use a propane torch to add a bit of solder?



        Originally posted by Apple Green Wheels Rule View Post
        Is that kosher?
        Yes, or use the hose H2O, and refill the tank to the very top with fuel right after.
        3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
        Henry Ford said,
        "It's all nuts and bolts"
        "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

        Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mitch View Post

          What Gary said.....
          I purchased a new valve and strainer. The strainer does not fit tightly in the hole in the valve. If I remove the valve stem so as to not melt the o-ring, can I just use a propane torch to add a bit of solder?





          Yes, or use the hose H2O, and refill the tank to the very top with fuel right after.
          Would what's called 'liquid solder' work?
          "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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          • #6
            When your ready I can come and solder it, pm me I don’t think we exchanged phone numbers

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Apple Green Wheels Rule View Post

              Would what's called 'liquid solder' work?
              It may not hold up to fuel, never used the stuff..
              Thanks BH
              3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
              Henry Ford said,
              "It's all nuts and bolts"
              "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

              Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Apple Green Wheels Rule View Post
                I'll be switching out my gas shut off valve in the Spring and changing out the pencil filter as the same time. Seems re-pop pencil filters are loose fitting in the shut-off valves from Snyder's. Any suggestions where or what can be done to get a snug new pencil filter fit in a new shutoff valve?
                First, Get a ORIGINAL shut off Valve, re-build it and good to go !!..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Big hammer View Post
                  When your ready I can come and solder it, pm me I don’t think we exchanged phone numbers
                  That sound like a winner. It won't be until late April and hopefully things will be somewhat back to normal virus wise by then. I'll go ahead and order both and have them at the ready. I might have some goodies that you might want to swap out for that take out dinner you'll stop by Red Lobster for lunch. Phone number sent by PM.
                  "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Apple Green Wheels Rule View Post
                    Red Lobster for lunch.
                    Now that is the funniest thing I heard all year
                    3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
                    Henry Ford said,
                    "It's all nuts and bolts"
                    "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

                    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mitch View Post

                      Now that is the funniest thing I heard all year
                      Well, maybe not a lobster but maybe some fresh river catfish from the pond!!!!
                      "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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                      • #12
                        All that "good clean livin' " has certainly taken years off the way you look Ed!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CarlG View Post
                          All that "good clean livin' " has certainly taken years off the way you look Ed!
                          Too many ladies..............(13) T.G. Sheppard -I Loved 'Em Every One - YouTube
                          "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes with Age and Experience"

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                          • #14
                            Don’t use gasoline to clean

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Big hammer View Post
                              When your ready I can come and solder it, pm me I don’t think we exchanged phone numbers
                              When Covid dies I can drop by and lend a hand . I actually had the exact same problem, only takes a second to solder . As mitch said I dont think I would use liquid .

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                              • #16
                                From Original Topic: Any suggestions where or what can be done to get a snug new pencil filter fit in a new shutoff valve?

                                Simple:

                                Buy your pencil filters from Bratton's who already knows that some pencil filters fit loosely in some shut off valves.

                                So to avoid unnecessary returns, unnecessary shipping and handling, wasted time, etc., Bratton's was compassionate and took the time to both carefully write and include written instructions to wrap the base of the pencil filter with "Teflon" tape, (if, and as necessary), to provide a tight fit.

                                After (14) years, (even with using 10% ethanol gasoline), my "Teflon" tape, Bratton's filter, and shut off valve took a licking and everything kept on ticking.




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                                • #17
                                  Ed,

                                  FWIW.

                                  One thing to remember about pencil filters.

                                  The filter raises the level of fuel inside the tank by about 1/2 to 3/4 inch.

                                  As such this leaves 2 to 3 cups of gasoline in the tank even after you drain the tank by opening the shutoff valve!

                                  Then when you remove the shutoff valve ... out comes the gasoline that spills onto the carpet!

                                  I forgot ... this should have been addressed to the Motor Pool guys at Camp Enari or Holloway!
                                  Last edited by benson; 12-29-2020, 11:44 AM.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by H. L. Chauvin View Post
                                    From Original Topic: Any suggestions where or what can be done to get a snug new pencil filter fit in a new shutoff valve?

                                    Simple:

                                    Buy your pencil filters from Bratton's who already knows that some pencil filters fit loosely in some shut off valves.

                                    So to avoid unnecessary returns, unnecessary shipping and handling, wasted time, etc., Bratton's was compassionate and took the time to both carefully write and include written instructions to wrap the base of the pencil filter with "Teflon" tape, (if, and as necessary), to provide a tight fit.

                                    After (14) years, (even with using 10% ethanol gasoline), my "Teflon" tape, Bratton's filter, and shut off valve took a licking and everything kept on ticking.



                                    For best results use the blue gas resistant tape. The white is a plumbers tape, which gas dissolves. Place a piece of the white tape in a jar of gas, let sit, and you can see for yourself.

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                                    • #19
                                      I have seen them still fall out with gas resistant tape. Ya can't go wrong with tinning it, basically a weld
                                      3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
                                      Henry Ford said,
                                      "It's all nuts and bolts"
                                      "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

                                      Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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