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    My car came with an autolite heater and the manifold not sure if the manifold is good, is there a piece of flex pipe that goes between the heater and the door on the firewall.

    Also I see a heater is also made for the stock manifold as well, mounting looks a little cheezy to me like it might be a real good vibrating noise maker,

    Any small compact water heaters that would work also.
    What have some of you guys here done?
    I listed link to some heaters that have a small footprint just wondering what some of you guys have or do. I may do nothing at all have not decided yet.
    Last edited by BNCHIEF; 10-03-2017, 09:27 AM.

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    Yes, you need a coupler between the heater and the firewall. I have used aluminum flex tubing, aluminum tape, sections of beer cans and anything else that looks like it would fit. They are the best as far as heat but you can't get to the distributer very easy and in the summer will create more heat under the hood.

    As far as the heater that fits the stock manifold (have provisions for those on 3 of my 4 cars), I use banjo clamps. Those put out a little heat and that is good for the passenger. Driver just dresses warm and doesn't complain. They do transmit the engine noise into the cabin. In the spring you think you got a new engine. Both styles will freeze you at a stop light. Another style I have has an outlet through the floorboard. It is for the 400A but can't bring myself to cut a hole in the high dollar carpet.

    Have never used a hot water heater. A thermostat would be a necessity.

    Most important is to plug up all the air holes around the steering column, transmission, lower door seal and around the windows. Then a nice warm blanket works. The only time I drive any of my cars is on New Year's Day since the Wichita A's tour director has decided we should make it an annual thing. Sometimes it is a little nippy but haven't frozen my rear off yet and my wife is happy because she is in front of the heater outlet. 2018 will be the 10th year.

    John

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    • #3
      Grover nice to meet you i just joined the wichita a's this year so will try to get down there some time, if nobody said it welcome to the vff and that is a nice looking avatar I assume that is your car. Eric did my short block. I was thinking about a water type heater I run a thermostat (modified) so that type heater would work but i do not want to put holes in the firewall the links I posted are water with one electric which interests me.
      Last edited by BNCHIEF; 10-03-2017, 12:08 PM.

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      • #4
        Joop on the Barn has a nice period water heater for sale, very reasonable. FWIW
        Paul in CT

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        • BNCHIEF
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          I will look thanks paul

      • #5
        Did not know it but you can buy new southwind heaters for 200.00.

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        • #6
          Joop is also on the VFF and has things posted in the classified FYI

          He actually just posted a trailer hitch today!
          3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
          Henry Ford said,
          "It's all nuts and bolts"
          "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

          Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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          • BNCHIEF
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            Thanks Mitch did not know.

        • #7
          Originally posted by BNCHIEF View Post
          My car came with an autolite heater and the manifold not sure if the manifold is good, is there a piece of flex pipe that goes between the heater and the door on the firewall.

          Also I see a heater is also made for the stock manifold as well, mounting looks a little cheezy to me like it might be a real good vibrating noise maker,

          Any small compact water heaters that would work also.
          What have some of you guys here done?
          I listed link to some heaters that have a small footprint just wondering what some of you guys have or do. I may do nothing at all have not decided yet.
          The last connecting hose I used was a heat riser from a modern car


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          • BNCHIEF
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            Good idea Big Hammer and thanks.

        • #8
          The nice thing about the water heater is that it gives added cooling and a bypass route for the radiator coolant.
          Bypass can help if you have a radiator that is just a hair short of flowing all the coolant the pump pushes into the top tank.

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          • #9
            Tom the radiator is new and I can easily add the water heater i really do not want to cut holes, but if you look at the links i provided especially the spartan equipment link that looks interesting to me as well no hole cutting I do a have a 12v 90 amp alternator on the car. Your point are well taken and a good idea smallest footprint is what I am after as well.

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            • Mitch
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              Chief where is the link to the heaters?

            • BNCHIEF
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              Mitch right at the bottom of my first post below where it says last edited i posted three links for comparison the equipment heater appears to be the most compact. Since I have an alternator it could work how effective in a larger area i am not sure. All show btu's and as I pointed out southwind heaters are available new and look quite nice and probably be the most effective.

          • #10
            After seeing heaters on eBay for 70 to 100 dollars plus 20 + in shipping I found a Heintz for $19.00 plus $17.00 shipping. Its art deco. The 6 v blower works, but I haven't had a chance to see if the radiator holds water. I'll have to fab some brackets to mount it. I plan to bring the water lines up thru the floor so I don't have to put holes in the firewall.

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            • #11
              A lot of the guys here use SCAT hose, sometimes called Aeroduct. There are a lot of places you can get this, but here's one:

              Vena Ht (SCAT Equivalent) Flexible Aircraft Ducting - Cut To Length Flexible hose made of one layer of glass fabric silicone coated and visible steel wire spiral inside. Sold by the foot.
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                Thanks Carl.

            • #12
              http://southwindheater.com/Home.html Here is a link to new ones being made. not sure of how these hook up. Got to thinking since I already have the little door for the auto-lite heater in my car I could remove it and possibly use that hole for the hook-up on a water heater of even a southwind heater. I am just looking at ideas and mulling this over for the time being.
              Last edited by BNCHIEF; 10-04-2017, 07:02 AM.

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              • #13
                So these southwind heaters draw fuel from the carburetor bowl by using manifold vacuum. I don't recall reading about anyone that has hooked them up on an A. I wonder if tapping into the fuel line in the car would be a viable option using appropriate fittings or adapters?
                3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
                Henry Ford said,
                "It's all nuts and bolts"
                "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

                Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                • #14
                  He said you cannot do that there is hookup info there so it could be done never used one my dad said they work better than any heater out there but read everything with that link a lot of good info there as well as instructions on how to hook up and how it operates I thought the same thing you did and they are ul approved. I thought they are really an intriguing idea and period as well as there are different years and models and they would actually look pretty good. The spartan cab heater I posted a link looks interesting as well but you need 12v I have a90 amp alternator and the footprint is small and could be removed easily for summer driving.

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                  • George Miller
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                    Do you need to use a fuel pump to get the gas in the heater?

                  • Mitch
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                    George i have no idea but i am thinking the vacuum line from it hooked to the motor draws the fuel up

                • #15
                  About 10 years ago someone posted that the South Wind heater puts out a lot of heat, but also used a lot of gasoline.

                  I prefer the free hot water heat.

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                  • #16
                    Pop had a South Wind hot water heater in his '36 Ford pickup. It about drove you out of the truck really put out some heat!!

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                    • #17
                      That is what I was told as well jeff.

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                      • #18
                        Tom looking at the specs the speedway heater looks nice 20000 btu both connections on the back and really would not look bad. Can't really see a way to mount guess it would be whatever suits you.

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