I assume this is the tag on the left side of the firewall. Cannot read the #'s, is there some way or someone that can pull the those numbers up so they are legible?
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So sorry, but that is the patent tag. Each one should have one.
Oh, and technically, that is the RIGHT side of the firewall. All directions are taken while sitting in the seat looking ahead.You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command! -
What is the importance of the VIN other than to match #'s on the motor? In my state any vehicle over 25 yrs old does not need a tittle. I think a 1930 should meet that requirement.Comment
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Is there a tag that id's the body? If so where can one find it?Comment
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What kind of body do you have? What year is your car? If it is a Briggs or Murray body, the tag and number for the body would be fastened to the firewall below the pat. tag. Are there holes in the fire wall below the pat. tag?Comment
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Here is the thread on the model. I am trying to find out exactly what I have here.Originally posted by Ed Saniewski View Post
As seen in the pic, there are no holes under the pat. tag.
Thanks for your help.
https://www.vintagefordforum.com/for...lp-id-this-carComment
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On the early Briggs and Murray bodied cars, the body tag was affixed to the top of the wooden front body cross member with nails.
DaveComment
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Your car is a 1931 not a 1930. I believe this was stated in the previous thread. The VIN is only located in (2) places, on the motor and on the frame under the drivers side door post. That's great that your state doe not require a title.Originally posted by Ed H View PostComment
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Ed, you have a very unique vehicle there. I was told that all the slant window sedans were indented firewall. Now, I know that the only year the slant window was made was 1931, I see now that there were also straight firewall 4dr sedans, and this makes it very unique because it would appear that Henry was using '30 parts to start the Briggs and Murray bodies before the order came down to get the fuel shutoff out of the passenger cab.
Treat it gently and lovingly as it is one of a special few.You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!Comment
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Thank you, I have a like new fire wall identical to the orig. Should I attempt to repair this one or replace?Originally posted by DaWizard View PostComment
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If the one you have is just like the one on the car, be my guest and use the better of the two. I would be sure to do all the picture taking documenting of all the work you do on the car so no one can say you changed away from stock. There are those out there that will continue to say that all the slant windows were indented firewalls, and you have proof
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The original firewall in your pics is repairable. It just depends on if you have the skills and equipment to repair it. The same goes for replacing the firewall.Originally posted by Ed H View PostComment
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I have the skills and equipment, not sure how much time is involved in repairing or total replacement.Originally posted by Pickupman View PostComment
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1929 Canadian built, Murray Fordor. no numbers on chassis , no numbers on gas tank , small tag screwed to firewall not riveted .... ALTA5491. Anybody share there thoughts on this tag?10-01-2018, 10:06 AM -
This concerns the two and possibably 3 Body Tags that were used by the Briggs Mfg. Co. on the 60-A and 60-B 2-Window Fordor Sedans.
The first was a tag about 2" x 1/2" and was indicated by 190-XXXXXX.
The second was a tag that was as such:
BODY NUMBER
190-XXXXXX
Briggs Mgf. Co. Detroit, Mich.
The third was a tag that indicated...11-12-2020, 12:06 PM -
My 30 Briggs blindback is missing the patent tag and the body tag on the firewall. I have purchased both new and already installed the patent plate. Original rivet holes line up perfect. I first thought the body tag would have the frame serial number stamped on it, and I was close to stamping it. After doing some more reading the Briggs body number is only the body number, separate from the VIN. So...08-22-2018, 08:31 PM -
there is some confusion on my 46 Ford VIN numbers. There is one number on my paperwork and another on the firewall of the vehicle. The previous owner probably made one good car out of two bodies and perhaps that explains it.
99A25xxxx on my paperwork, and
51A73SDxxxx on the firewall of the car.
its a Right Hand Drive Australian modified car, and I have just bought...You do not have permission to view this gallery.
This gallery has 2 photos.12-09-2018, 10:11 PM -
Anyone know where i can find a Photo of a 1929 Briggs Logo body tag. (not the plate on firewall)05-18-2018, 02:01 PM -
When did Briggs start putting the Body Tag on the firewall of the 2-Window Fordor Sedans?
I know the 60-A and 60-B were tacked to the body wooden floor sills but what about he 60-C, 170-A, 170-B...160-C?
Thanks.
Pluck02-29-2020, 09:30 PM -
Russell Knaack and myself are working on an article called "The Evolution of the 1928-1931 Model A Ford 2-Window Fordor Sedans".
We are in need of some production data off of these body's that you may have if in fact you have one yourself or know of one of the following body styles:
60-A (1928): Original Body Tag number and Gas tank date;
60-B (1929):...02-23-2020, 10:17 AM -
The 160-C, the 1931 Deluxe Slant Window Fordor Sedan body was produced by Briggs, Murray and Ford.
I am in need of some confrmation data on Body Tags.
I have the following tags represented:
139-XXXXXX is Briggs;
160-C-XXXXXX is Murray;
153-XXXXX What then was this Body Tag? I have been told that it represents Briggs but under what...06-26-2020, 03:51 PM -
Can please someone advise on how to repaint old tag (yes I watched like 10 videos on Utube)? Looks unissued with almost no dents, but light pitting all over steel base - how to get rid of it?
On a first take I stripped and cleaned the tag with "Evapo-rust". Covered with primer, sanded where I could reach (did not go wild) and repainted with one thick layer of enamel. Came out IMHO...05-11-2020, 06:16 PM -
Besides looking at the Body Tag to ID a 1931 Murray or Briggs 2-Window/Slant Window Fordor Sedan, providing the Body Tag is there or not...Just what are the tell-tale signs of telling the difference in makes?
Thanks.
Pluck02-29-2020, 05:25 PM
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