Still slowly reassembling the Town Sedan engine. The manifold that was on it had about 3/16 sag and I could see where it had blown out the gasket at the rear. I have a new manifold (both exhaust and intake) and gland rings. I have used copper gaskets in the past, but the new copper ones I have will not clear the gland ring, they are smaller diameter, probably the diameter of the block exit without the gland ring machining. I do have a couple sets of the asbestos (?) type. Any suggestions from those smarter than I? Use the gland rings and asbestos type or don't use gland rings and use the copper?
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i would use the gland rings with the copper gasket.. i have not run into the issue of the gasket port holes being to small. to me it sounds like your gasket is not correct.
maybe someone else has info on why???
i do like to use the later style copper that slides down over the studs without pulling the manifolds all the way off.3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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I use the layered copper, with a very small bead of high temp exhaust sealant around the ports. Has never failed. The BLACK dimpled "asbestos" ones, blow out quickly, like, POOOF!!Originally posted by Roadster Rich View Post
I don't know where I got them, but I have a set made of regular, BRAND X gasket material, what a JOKE!!!!
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have never found a need for the gland rings; and always use the copper gasketComment
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I agree with tbird.Comment
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I like to use the gland rings and copper gasket.
I'd try to get the correct copper gasket to fit over the rings.
The rings give a smoother flow and keep much of the heat off the edge of the gasket.Comment
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Toms right on with a better explanation of why. Without the rings in place the play in the alignment of the ports and gasket (wiggle / play over the studs) is enough to cause issues as stated. They also help prevent manifold droopOriginally posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
Henry Ford said,
"It's all nuts and bolts"
"Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."
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I was going to say the same exact thing Mitch I also have some exhaust pipe hangers heavy rubber i thought about try to use to give the muffler some support as well.
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Speaking of manifold warp, here's one I can't explain. In the late 70's I did an engine overhaul on a big block Chevy for a customer. I never remove manifolds or heads until the engine reaches room temperature, and the manifolds felt like a perfect fit when I removed them. A few days later, when I went to reinstall them, I had to heat the bottom side to make them fit, otherwise there was no way they were going back on. I just can't figure how that happened while they sat on the work table for a few days.Comment
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I took a ride and got copper gaskets from Mikes that will fit with the gland rings. All set now and moving on with the reassembly.Comment
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Going to order a gasket set for my motor build. Not going for points, just want a good gasket set. Paper set from Snyder's? Originals are copper?11-04-2017, 12:55 PM -
As some of you know I picked up my new engine today and the manifolds have been surfaced but the machinist didn’t assemble them to the block as the glands were not included in the gasket kit I had purchased. I did a quick search on here regarding their use and the results were all over the place. I ordered a set tonight from Snyder’s along with a few other essentials. But the question still stands...03-02-2021, 09:02 PM -
The other day a spent working a list of things on Hugh’s coupe , one item was an exhaust leak after fixing the joint where the muffler meets the manifold we found a leak at the number one exhaust right at the front was a blown gasket. So I read up on gaskets and gland rings. Lots of different schools of thought, almost like asking what oil to use. Lol. my question is who supplies the BEST quality...04-14-2022, 09:36 PM
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Well, here is my sad story and I'm ashamed to admit it.
As most of you know, over the past few days I have been working on Wheezy to get him straightened out from the PO. Well, after reinstalling the intake/exhaust manifold I developed an exhaust leak. So, being the smart ass that I am, I remove the manifold and replace the gasket and gland rings to fix the problem.
Well,...09-26-2017, 11:16 AM -
I removed the exhaust manifold to fix a leak. This engine was built by a very reputable Model A builder. The manifold had the two piece gasket next to the block and the one piece gasket next to the manifold. Why? The exhaust manifold was slightly eroded (pitted). Could this be the reason for the two gaskets? I will have the manifold milled and hopefully use only the one piece copper gasket....11-19-2022, 01:47 PM -
I did a search to try to find out what waterpump gaskets that were originally used, but found nothing. I have had problems with searching, so maybe I missed it/them. Anyway, I am using a copper clad gasket for the water inlet to the engine, but all I have is a heavy paper gasket for the waterpump that came in the gasket kit. I don't know if the proper gasket has anything to do with the fan belt...12-03-2020, 06:11 PM -
I am curious as to what folks use here on gaskets i will post what i use or believe and no i am not trying to start a fight
copper head gasket copper gasket sealer
paper gaskets purple permatex sealer non hardening
cork not sure never have used them so looking for suggestions
green gaskets some suppliers sell also grey am told does not need any sealers
I tried...09-23-2021, 07:16 AM -
I am now doing the final assembly on my 8BA. What recommendations would you share for these gaskets? (1) the intake manifold, (2) water pumps, (3) thermostat housings.
Experience is the best teacher, but it ain't always the least expensive!01-12-2022, 01:49 PM -
Which intake exhaust manifolds gaskets are best copper and gland ring or the steel one piece and do you use the gland rings?07-03-2018, 09:29 AM
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Is this gasket just bolted down without any gasket maker application?02-19-2018, 07:55 PM
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