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    Radiator support rods

    anyone know the length of these rods...I have the mid '29 - up rods and they seem to be 1/2 inch to long. I don't know if a early 28 frame makes a difference. I have a new 28-29 rad.
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    #2
    Beauford, the distance between the hood mounts on my '28 is 26 7/8". I set the distance between firewall and radiator so the hood fits.

    Looks like the rod length is 26"
    Last edited by DaWizard; 08-14-2017, 03:50 PM.
    You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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      #3
      put your hood on lift on side of the hood up and get a measurement so your hood will fit corectly when done and allow for a little adjustment, your wifes sewing basket measuring tape works well for this as well.

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      • Beauford
        Beauford commented
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        Chief....hood is in pieces awaiting cut and buff.

      • BNCHIEF
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        That is ok just use a piece of it the top for instance get it the way you want it to fit when finished and get your measurement this will not be real critical.

      #4
      Thanks Wiz...I'll check my measurements. If you look though the rods are to long?? They need to be shorter to seat in radiator bracket

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      • BNCHIEF
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        Put a little more thread on them and shorten them to you needs after they are tight at the firewall.

      #5
      See the distance here...too long
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        #6
        Beauford, I'm sure if you measure the center hinge rod you can determine the distance between the radiator shell and the mount, it can only go in each end so far.

        So, hang the shell on the radiator, and put the cowl mount thingy in the notch on the cowl and make a measurement. Don't thread and cut the rods until after you have the mounts set for distance.
        You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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          #7
          I'm in trouble...here is the center rod...what is going on???
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          • DaWizard
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            Ok, first, don't panic. Is the radiator vertical? If not, it should be close to vertical. Take out your little carpenter level and check.

            If it is not vertical, then I would take loose the attachments, like radiator hose, and take a top section of the hood and see if you can adjust it out enough to lay it on top.

            I don't think you are in trouble, just misaligned.

            From the look of it, your radiator is way too far tilted back.

          • Beauford
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            Ok...I dont see how anything but that could be the problem....just really freaked me out. LOL Thank you

          • DaWizard
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            Ok, I JUST checked mine and it is a ½ bubble tilted BACK. I know yours is way farther back than that just by looking at the pic.

            See, you assembled yours without any rearward reference, so take the cowl rod mount, slide the rod into that and adjust the radiator to fit and everything should line up.

          #8
          Yes, I am off by exactly a each top side when placing hood top on and then measuring bottom is good so you are correct that the rad top is facing inward. Thank you sooooo much. Almost had a stroke at 48 and I still have plenty of work to do on truck!!!!

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          • Beauford
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            1 inch

          #9
          does the JS give the proper lengths?
          3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
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          "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

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          • Beauford
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            HAHAHA...well now..let me look! Good call..

          • Mitch
            Mitch commented
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            also check say snyders web site,, that may have something

          #10
          Snyders 25 3/4" same as mine..probably came from there so yes the rad needs to move top forward.

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            #11
            The most important thing first is that the top hood panels lay as you want them too the rest is fixable and I would put the radiator shell on as well before going further to get a correct fit. Don't panic your doing fine.

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              #12
              Damn YOU ALL!! See what happens when I open the JS book!! Found things that give me more pause and find that my poor July '28 Tudor is closer to an AR/E28 car than first appears. It has some neat stuff according to the JS and I had to put the book away before I started to rebuild my car in the E28 format. Up until now, I kinda liked it the way it was, now......not so sure, and it's ALL your fault!!!
              You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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              • Mitch
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                It's a great resource and most never look at it

              • BNCHIEF
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                Education costs money but then you can not take it with you enjoy life.

              #13
              Several years ago I installed a repro radiator from Bratton's for a 1930 AA truck, and I'm sure it was Brassworks.
              The tank bracket was shorter than the original, so I had to weld extensions on the hood rods.

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              • Beauford
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                Yes, mine is brassworks from Brattons....I think we found that my radiator is tilting back too much.

              • BNCHIEF
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                It is but that is why I recommended checking the fit and lay of your hood panels so you can clear up issues now before you paint it, been there done that .

              • brassworks
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                Not sure of your purchase date The AA bracket was changed to address this after we were advised of the issue . I can't load the image but here is a link to the bracket http://www.thebrassworks.net/shop/im...20brackets.jpg Its been corrected a few years now

                The image in the photo does not look like a Brassworks radiator. There is a return flange, no die stamping and the paint is glossy.
                Last edited by brassworks; 06-14-2018, 06:51 PM. Reason: editing because i looked at the image again

              #14
              Just followed your suggestion Chief and laid the tops on...good to go!

              Thanks Wiz...she look upright now? HAHAHA....Sometimes I over think these simple Model A's...
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                #15
                You are doing a great looking job.

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