Blow back..

[Beauford]

Hey guys! Figured out how to put the windshield on but it seems it will blow back? What's the trick here? I have the wing nuts tight. Also, hows the weather strip piece on the bottom stay in place. I see two holes on the bottom of the frame. Do snaps go on the front or back on top....sorry first Rodeo here...

[DaWizard]

Ya know Beauford, something tells me that you need a rivet or screw in the front side of those pillars. I wish I had known a few days ago, I could have taken some pictures for ya. Since you got the stuff from "whats-their-name" was the A Pillars part of the package? and were there any instructions at all that came with the package on that part?

https://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/ford/model_a/ford_model_a_roadster_pickup_2.jpg

If you look at this roadster A pillar you can see 3 definite screws or rivets that hold the A pillar.

[DaWizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhCatuv0moI

Here is a guy that installs the side curtains, which plainly shows 2 screws on the side to keep the pillar upright, so if you only have 1 screw, screw it!!

[Beauford]

yes, I have two screw holes that hold stanchions. Top one is for mirrors. No instructions. I'm not planning on side curtains as I wont drive it in the rain.

[Bob C]

There should be slots on the sides and bottom of the windshield frame for the weather strip to slide into. The snaps for the top go on the outside of the frame.
There should be two hole that go through the lower part of the frame front to back for the finger pulls.
The pictures of Marco's car show the finger pulls and the weather strip.

Bob

[Beauford]

Thanks BoB! You helped me install the initial windshield and didn't even know it. (searching other sites) So what keeps the windshield bottom from blowing back? I have slots in Stanchions but only bottom slot on windshield.

[Bob C]

[DaWizard]

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[Beauford]

Thanks but those are wings. I don't know if they stop the window from blowing back do they?

[DaWizard]

The pic was for the screws and mirrors holding that A pillar in place, I don't know if the wings help or not, not my car but a friends I called and ask him.

[Beauford]

thanks buddy! actually helped me on the mirrors so all is great. I'm assuming those window grabs I will order hold the window??

[Tom Wesenberg]

Original windshield hinge cones have enough friction to hold the windshield open, but repro parts may not hold so well. My 28 Phaeton will stay open with the original parts and the two wing nuts firmly tightened.

BTW original open pickups didn't have a top that folded down, but repro kits to make the change have been sold. I haven't worked on either style top, so can't offer much else.

[Beauford]

Hey Tom! I have the original non-folding top. I'm worried about the windshield blowing in on me. LOL Maybe my cones are not seated correctly. They were made from Ford dies....much like vendor fenders and we know how that works out.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

"Engineer" some kind of stop for the window blowing back!!! Them danged things are DANGEROUS!!!
Bill Closedcar & GOOD HAIR--LOL

[DaWizard]

I would say, just install the mirror brackets and take away the pivot point of the lower screw.

[Dollar Bill]

I used all of the tried and true methods to keep my roadsters windshield in position with no joy. Finally JB Welded the inner/outer cones together. Hasn't moved since.

[Beauford]

I'm going to see once I install the gasket if that will work. I live in a small town so just putting around once he is ready.

Wiz...the stanchions just have a upper and lower screw hole. Screw in the bottom and the RPU mirrors screw in the top hole. They have no effect on windshield. I'm thinking you think the arms fold down (stanchions) No it is the windshield itself attached to the top where the pivot point is and it can swing back and forth even with butterflies tightened really hard.

[Roadster Rich]

I cannot tell if you are talking about a Roadster or not. But on mine the chromed stantions are the problem. I thought those on my car where original. My Dad and I did a restoration on his high school car when I was 14 and 15. But I recently found the originals in a pile of parts we have at the old family home. On the replacements the part of the stantion that is supposed to meet the A pillar structural part of the car were not correct. This should hit solidly against the A pillar support and stop the windshield from blowing backwards. I measured a pair at Bert's and clearly see the difference. In my case I plan on TIG welding up this spot and machining and polishing so that it is proper. I always stick in a shim (a nickel works in my case) when I drive with the top down. Lost more darn nickels that way.
Windshield Stantion Reduced Size.jpgWindshield Stantion 2 Resized.jpg The position of this tab is what determines where the windshield locks out from moving backward.

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

The FIRST time Ted (RIP!) drove his RPU to coffee, at about 55, the window BANGED back & he almost wrecked out!!! He arrived with an UGLY stick, wedged in it---LOL
Bill W.

[Beauford]

Well, that is scary!!!

[Mitch]

See Beauford look at all this quality info your getting, much more than i could have gave you, plus it's now part of the archives;)

[Beauford]

In my younger days I installed windshield glass. That was easier than installing this complete windshield.

[DaWizard]

Ok Beauford, when you said "Blow Back" I was envisioning the A pillar tilting back toward the driver for this "Blow Back", but instead you are now saying it is the bottom of the windshield you fear coming up to slap you in the chin. So, I now see the problem, you don't have any of the weather stripping wrapped around the windshield, or you would see that the sides and bottom make it almost impossible for the windshield to move past the A pillar. That is why the bottom of the windshield tilts up and away from the A pillar, the rubber weather strips keep it from tilting back.

[Beauford]

Yup...that's my next project...