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    Has anyone ever tried filling the nail holes in the top wood and then successfully nailed the top material and molding down? I'm working on a 30 170B deluxe. I replaced the header but wonder about the rest of the top wood.

  • #2
    I'm surprised that no one has responded to this. I have no personal experience on this but I know there are products on the market that can be used to restore dried out and water softened wood. These are probably resin based and harden holding on to the wood fibers something like bondo on metal. However, I would also think that driving nails into the repaired wood may not hold because the overall composition has been changed. Try it on a small area and see what happens.....

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    • #3
      I do it Brents way. just finished a coupe top last week. Had lots of nail holes.

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      • #4
        I’ve only ever done the windshield screw holes. Similar to Brent's method, using popsicle sticks or other pieces of small wood.
        Jeff
        Twiss Collector Car Parts

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        • #5
          FWIW:

          A. If one has all kinds of wood fastening tack holes, screw holes, and bolt holes to fill for any type of wood work, here is one (1) hobby site where one can find inexpensive wood dowels for many different uses.

          B. Wood dowels are also great to have in one's shop for the ancient art of strengthening new or patched wood joints.

          C. Just Google: www.createforless.com and under Search, type in: wood dowels.

          ​​​​​​D. Scroll down further for inexpensive packs of 12" long dowels as small as 1/16" diameter on upwards to larger diameters.

          E. For Model A wood roof or wood door work, never a bad idea to always use waterproof glue ..... especially on a Model A driven occasionally in the rain.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the great ideas, I'll give them a try.

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            • #7
              We've used a product called Kwik Poly which is a 2 part type epoxy that comes with a binding powder which looks like baking flour. It was surprisingly strong and held wood screws after predrilling in areas with bad access.I suppose one can use fine hardwood sawdust as a binder also. One can make a small form out of stiff paper, etc. to prevent it from flowing out in some areas. We didn't use it for tacks but it held barbed nails OK. As stated, the dowels, etc. held in with Gorilla glue work well also, especially for the inside garnish molding finishing screws.
              Last edited by plyfor; 09-12-2018, 10:45 AM.

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              • #8
                Like Brent said above, artificial substances like epoxy or bondo just don't last. It's like using bondo to fix a rotted piece of wood on your house. It's ok to use on a house if you are selling it in a month or two, but it will fail between the wood and the bondo. Good enough to make it past initial inspection and maybe 6 months after that and it's back to crap after that. Fix failed pieces of wood with new.

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                • #9
                  While on the subject of wood what did Ford use for wood? On the same breathe what is recommended?

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                  • Tom Wesenberg
                    Tom Wesenberg commented
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                    All the wood in mine has been Maple

                • #10
                  Hardwoods from the U.P. of Michigan. I've seen maple and ash. I doubt oak. Cut around Paqaming, Iron Mountain . Rough cut in Alberta and shipped out of Lanse and Kingsford. I'm sure there were several other sources.
                  Lanse, MI as in Lanse green.
                  Kingsford as in Kingsford cgarcoal.
                  http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

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                  • pAAt
                    pAAt commented
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                    Nice history lesson Jim !

                • #11
                  Stand corrected on the oak . What I thought was ash must have been birch.
                  Do you have the m-1208 spec sheet?
                  http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

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                  • #12
                    "Linderman Joints Permissible"..........is that what I've always called a "Finger Joint", where several VVVVV cuts fit together?

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                    • #13
                      Found this on the MTFCA site. Double taper dovetail.

                      http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages...tml?1314939430
                      http://jmodela.coffeecup.com

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                      • #14
                        I will no doubt use red oak. It is available here easier than birch or ash.

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