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    filedata/fetch?id=10313&d=1554669844&type=thumbfiledata/fetch?id=10312&d=1554116815&type=thumbAs I have been rebuilding carburetors for a friend and club member and others, I have noticed that the sleeve below the spring has been oriented in the wrong direction. At least to ALL of my recollection.

    See pics below for proper orientation from my years.

    There is a logical and common sense reason for orienting it with the wide end down. Ever try to assemble it with the straight end down? You have to get those 2 shafts exactly aligned, where with the wider end down, all you need do is get them close and the taper will do the rest, and think about this move on the assemble line...
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    Last edited by DaWizard; 07-25-2017, 04:08 PM.
    You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

  • #2
    i thought the belled end was up to capture the spring?

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    • #3
      Since the spring is the same diameter as the sleeve, there is no need to capture it.
      You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tbirdtbird View Post
        i thought the belled end was up to capture the spring?
        I thought that the bellow goes towards the spring:

        3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
        Henry Ford said,
        "It's all nuts and bolts"
        "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

        Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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        • #5
          Now, just for S&G I looked it up in the JS, although on 1-14 it does show all 3 styles of sleeves, it however does NOT give a orientation, BUT it does show the sleeves with the taper to the right, which to me would say it is to remain to the right and attach as so.
          You wana look waaay far up da road and plan yer route because the brakes are far more of a suggestion than a command!

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        • #6
          I've always put the belled end down. It's much easier to line up that way and like Da Wizard said, think about the assembly line and the speed they needed. I have put a washer between the spring and tube at times if I thought it was warranted.

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          • #7
            All the high points cars have the flare touching the spring. I wonder if there are any originals pictures to show this detail?

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            • Mitch
              Mitch commented
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              All those fine point pictures of Marks roadster and not one shows that detail

          • #8
            I was thinking the flare was made to mate against the spring and have always installed them that way. Rod
            "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good." Thomas Sowell

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            • #9
              Flared end against the spring.

              Bathroom tissue roll over and never under.
              It's Nice To Be Important, But It's More Important To Be Nice.

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              • #10
                Guys look Flared end toward firewall. Straight end over the GAV.
                Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA
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                MAFFI Trustee
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                • #11
                  Ford Archives photo of '31 engine shows the flare up towards spring

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                  • #12
                    I asked Mark Maron about the orientation on his fine point roadster. Flare end up towards the spring,
                    this and the other responses pretty much puts this to bed!!!!!!!!
                    i will add his pics to the fine point photo thread ...........

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                    3~ Tudor's & 1~ Coupe
                    Henry Ford said,
                    "It's all nuts and bolts"
                    "Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible."

                    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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                    • Rowdy
                      Rowdy commented
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                      Glad this issue is resolved. One more detail I don't have to question later. Rod

                  • #13
                    Did this keep you up til 220 am? LOL

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                    • Mitch
                      Mitch commented
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                      This wont satisfy Wiz, but now i can sleep,HEHEHE,,, its a done deal in my book!!!

                    • Beauford
                      Beauford commented
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                      Well, I installed mine bell up per instructions on vendor website....

                    • CarlG
                      CarlG commented
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                      Which is ?????

                    • Beauford
                      Beauford commented
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                      Not sure which vendor....I've ordered I think from everyone out there....

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