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  • Determining tudor or fordor 1933 escape car.

    attached are photos of The car Dillinger used to escape from Crown Point Jail with a wooden gun. This car is the sherriff's car. It is a Standard 1933 model, notice one horn only, but has a v8, notice emblem.
    Is it a Tudor or Fordor? What do you think?

  • #2
    Here is an other photo of the same car? Can two door handles be seen on one side?

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    • #3
      Claude, that is definitely a Tudor. If you look closely, it has only 2 side windows, a Fordor would have 3 windows a side.
      "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
      We grow old because we stop playing ...
      NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

      I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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      • #4
        interesting, but I can't see it? They kept such bad records in those days shame all the police recorded was the serial number.
        https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=...-txIN--------1
        Last edited by ClaudeC; 11-04-2018, 04:53 PM. Reason: add news article

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        • #5
          Great to read the story, thanks for posting it, I love the old style of writing.

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          • #6
            The fbi report states that sherrif holley's car was a fordor. But, police reports of that day have had errors before.
            Serial # 18256447 a certain 1933 Ford Model 40 Standard fordor sedan that was used by John Dillinger to escape the Crown Point, IN. jail on Saturday, March 3, 1934
            it's mentioned over 10 times in the FBI FOIA files to be a fordor
            Still from the photos, I can not easily see that the car is a fordor.

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            • #7
              This is just a guess at this point but it seems that the Sheriffs dept. would have purchased 4 door cars as they are easier to load with extra cops or prisoners also lower end model cars to stretch the budget but a V8 would be desired to chase the bad guys, there just seems to be no pictures of this car to determine definitively what it is. Access to county purchase records may indicate more.

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              • #8
                I think the photo with the two door tops is the most convincing. I have a 1933 ford standard fordor and was able to replicate this view.

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                • Bobm90
                  Bobm90 commented
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                  Great car can we get a photo?

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                • Bobm90
                  Bobm90 commented
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                  sorry I ment a photo of your car.

              • #10
                Funny, here is a John Dillinger wanted poster with the car thief at the bottom, describes as fordor.

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                • #11
                  Well, there ya go Claude, it was a fordor.
                  "We do not stop playing because we grow old;
                  We grow old because we stop playing ...
                  NEVER Be The First To Get Old!" Pilfered from the MAFC SA Newsletter

                  I JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!

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                  • #12
                    I have been following this thread : )





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                    2 1930 Tudors

                    Henry Ford said
                    "It's all nuts and bolts"


                    Mitch's Auto Service ctr

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